17 Replies Latest reply: Aug 3, 2012 5:16 PM by whsprague RSS

    Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?

    Nohjekim Community Member

      Hi

       

      I have an Apple iPod, it will only take .m4v video files.

       

      I have been converting them after exporting them but I'm having some problems with that.

      Some of the files won't play on the iPad even after being converted or at least iTunes say they won't!

      Since it thinks they won't it won't upload them to the iPad3.

       

      They will play if I move then there with Dropbox.

      But I havne't gotten any ideas from the IPod forum.

       

      Anyway I thought that if I could create them directly in PE that maybe it would solve the problem.

       

      Thanks for the help...

       

      Mike

        • 1. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
          the_wine_snob Community Member

          Which version of PrE are you working with?

           

          In PrE 10, under the QuickTime option (IIRC), there are Presets for Mobile Devices, and I think that there is one for iPod. Have you tried that, only to have it fail?

           

          I have never output any video for iPod, or iPad, so am only going from memory here.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
            the_wine_snob Community Member

            Mike,

             

            Are you aware that M4v is only the Video Stream with no Audio muxed into it?

             

            Some users have output to MP4, and also MOV (usually just changing that extension), with success.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
              Nohjekim Community Member

              Hi Bill

               

              This has me really confused, it's my first contact with an Apple device and the whole thing is convoluted.

              I can't just copy the videos to the iPad as I can with photos, I have to go through iTunes to have it automatically import them.

               

              I'm using a program called Handbrake to convert them from MP2, or WMF (that I export from PE 10), to what it says is an M4v file.

               

              When I play them on my PC in iTunes the play fine, there is sound, though there have been some that didn't have sound when I played them back.

               

              There are a lot of options for converting them, iPad, new iPad, Regular, etc, so mayge some have sound and some don't depending on how they are converted.

              They all end up being M4v file though.

               

              I have gotten one of the videos to work and import to the iPad but the other 2 won't.

              The thing is as I said the files will play on the iPad if I import them into DropBox, but iTunes won't import them because it say that they won't.

              As far as I can see there is no way to get them from DropBox into the video list on the iPad.

               

              I don't think I found the direct export to the pad from PE so I'll give that a try tomorrow.

               

              I'm running Windows 8 on my PC and I've gotten used to it now, if the Microsoft Surface will do what the iPad will do I may switch when it comes out.

               

              Thanks for the help..

               

              I'll let you know if it works.

               

              Mike

              • 4. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                whsprague Community Member

                With my PrE10 and an old iPod Touch, I do Share>Mobile Phones and Players>Apple iPod, iPad and iPhone>Presets (button) and drop down to the device of choice.  There are a lot of Apple choices.   Then I put the rendered file in iTunes and paste it to the the iPod. 

                 

                Bill

                • 5. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                  Thank you for stepping in, as I have not output for either iPod, or iPad.

                   

                  Mike is correct, in that one must go though iTunes, but as for you, that works fine for most folk.

                   

                  @Mike, good luck, and I think that Whsprague has the steps that you need. With the Mobile Devices Preset, with the correct settings, I would think that Handbrake would not be needed in the workflow, but could be wrong.

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                    Nohjekim Community Member

                    Hi

                     

                    I tried a couple of the outputs from the Quicktime menu.

                    Both gave me a file with sound but no video.

                     

                    I'll try some others later.

                    This time I will be serious about it and write down which ones I'm doing so I can keep track.

                     

                    I'm working on it. LOL

                     

                    Mike

                    • 7. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                      whsprague Community Member

                      I looked up M4V and got, "it is a video file format developed by Apple and is very close to the MP4 format. The differences are the optional Apple's DRM copyright protection, and the treatment of AC3 (Dolby Digital) audio which is not standardized for the MP4 container"

                       

                      Are you trying to re-work copywrite video files or just make iPod/iPad compatable content form your own projects?  If the former, I doubt it will work well.  If the latter, use PrE to create something besides M4V.  I looked briefly at an Apple site and found, " In general, your iPod can play H.264 and MPEG-4 video in .mov, .m4v, and .mp4 file formats."  That leaves at least two choices.

                       

                      Bill

                      • 8. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                        Nohjekim Community Member

                        Hi Bill

                         

                        I'm creating original content, some of it is HD video shot with he iPad, some is animated video done in Poser.

                        Poser will only output .AVI files so I don't have any options there.

                         

                        I'm importing the various video into PE 10 adding background music and titles etc. and then trying to export them to the iPad among other uses.

                        They play fine in everything including the iPad but only if I access them through DropBox.

                         

                        Here is a link to a short sample... Less then a minute.

                         

                        http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/nohjekim/My%20iPad%20Videos/?action=view&current =Vegetarian.mp4

                         

                        Other's include a video all shot with the iPad and edited in PE that shows our Deerhound doing agility training.

                         

                        I'm just trying to come up with a way of creating files that iToons won't keep insisting that the iPad won't play, when I know that it will!

                        Computers don't you just love them. LOL

                         

                        Thanks again for the input.

                         

                        Mike

                        • 9. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                          the_wine_snob Community Member

                          Mike,

                           

                          Nice to see that Lucy is still around, and doing well. I fondly recall her foray into an ancient graveyard, some years ago.

                           

                          I'll have to play about with my iPod, and then, if my wife will allow, her iPad. I have just never done anything but music and stills (slideshows basically), for the iPod, so am very unsure of how to tell you to proceed.

                           

                          There are others around here, who do this fairly often, and will likely have helpful instructions.

                           

                          I would also suggest that you post the forums (Communities) at Muvipix.com, as there are many there, who do output various file types to iPod and iPad, and can likely help you.

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                            whsprague Community Member

                            Nohjekim wrote:

                             

                            ........Here is a link to a short sample... Less then a minute.

                             

                            http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/nohjekim/My%20iPad%20Videos/ ?action=view&current=Vegetarian.mp4

                             

                             

                            Now I am really impressed.  Even though I thought I knew how to help, it is clear you are light years ahead of me.  I apologize for my arogance.

                             

                            Bill

                            • 11. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                              Nohjekim Community Member

                              Hi

                               

                              No apology needed. LOL

                               

                              I've only been at the animation thing for a couple of years (I was an illustrator and graphic designer before retirement) but Lucy is still alive and well, and the subject of most of my movies.

                               

                              Since she was appreciated here is a link to my last Lucy movie, I have another one nearing completion. .

                               

                              http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/nohjekim/Lucy%20looks%20at%20life%20002/?action= view&current=Lucy002Sailboat1600x900.mp4

                               

                              I'll let you know what I find out about the file thing.

                               

                              Mike

                              • 12. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                nealeh Community Member

                                There shouldn't be any need for you to resort to Handbrake. Have you tried Share> Computer> QuickTime> Advanced and trying the H264 or MPEG4 codecs? They both produce .mov files.

                                 

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                                Or Share> Mobile> Apple iPod, iPad, or iPhone> Apple iPad Widescreen? This produces an MP4 file.

                                 

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                                Cheers,
                                --
                                Neale
                                Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

                                • 13. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                  Nohjekim Community Member

                                  Hi

                                   

                                  I havn'et tried that but I will.

                                   

                                  Thanks for the help.

                                   

                                  Mike

                                  • 14. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                    the_wine_snob Community Member

                                    Mike,

                                     

                                    Those were the general setting that I was alluding to, but as I have not done, what you need to do, had to wait for an expert, such as Neale, to fill in the blanks in MY mind. It also does not hurt that he's British too!

                                     

                                    Good luck,

                                     

                                    Hunt

                                     

                                    PS - and Off Topic - when I would go to London, many years ago, most folk spoke, in a fashion similar to Lucy. Oh there were a few regional inflections in there, but in general, it was the Queen's English. I would stop into stores, in which I had no interest, just to hear the shopkeepers speak to me. Not like that anymore. I hear Farsi, Hindi, or some Eastern Euro language. No one speaks English (at least not UK English) any more. I have to go out from the city, many Km, just to hear the country's language again. Maybe that is why I am a fan of Lucy. Sorry for the tangent, but good luck, and please let us know if Neale's suggestions work for the iPod and iPad.

                                    • 15. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                      Nohjekim Community Member

                                      Hi Bill

                                       

                                      I haven't gotten back to PE yet, i've been trying to figure out how to use iFile and DropBox together.

                                      I can import the videos I have into iFile and they work OK without getting iTunes involved.

                                       

                                      I'm not British myself I live in Michigan, but we have been to England and Scotland a number of times, and still have friends there.

                                      These came about because of our dogs and the fact that a friend of ours from this area, married a Scott and moved there,

                                       

                                      We have had Scottish Deerhounds for almost 40 years.

                                       

                                      Lucy grew out of the Lucy voice from  Acapela Group and Text Aloud, text to speech software.

                                       

                                      One day a friend told me a joke that I really thought was funny.

                                      I decided to animate it and send it to him.

                                       

                                      I already had the Lucy voice.

                                       

                                      All the sounds on my computer are Lucy, i.e. when I empty the recycle bin she says, "Enough of This Trash", and when I get Mail she says "You've got new mail Mike. can you believe that!" etc.

                                      I think that Lucy is by far the most realistic computer voice that I've ever heard.

                                       

                                      Anyway since I wanted to animate the joke I had to create a character to go with the voice, so Lucy was born.

                                      The first one was really simple, just Lucy on a dark background telling the joke.

                                       

                                      Now when I do them it's as much for the process as it is for the final result.

                                      I try and do new things with each video, like the sailboat, where I rocked the image from side to side to make it look like the boat was moving.

                                       

                                      I work on them on and off until I finish them and I have several in the works now that will get done eventually.

                                      The Lucy about the word vegetarian one I did a couple of days ago in just a few hours, to send to a friend who is somewhat vocal about eating right..

                                       

                                      Anyway thanks for the help.

                                       

                                      I'll try Neal's solution and let you know how it goes.

                                       

                                      Mike

                                      • 16. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                        the_wine_snob Community Member

                                        Michigan!?!?! Here I thought that you WERE British. My bad.

                                         

                                        Also, the humor in the Lucy pieces seemed very, very British, at least to me. You fooled me.

                                         

                                        I know zero about iFile, or DropBox, so cannot help there.

                                         

                                        I think that Neale (our UK friend), has provided you with suggestions that will get you up and running. Please report your success.

                                         

                                        Good luck,

                                         

                                        Hunt

                                        • 17. Re: Is there a way to output .M4v files from PE 10?
                                          whsprague Community Member

                                          Bill Hunt wrote:

                                           

                                          .... and Off Topic - when I would go to London, many years ago, most folk spoke, in a fashion similar to Lucy. Oh there were a few regional inflections in there, but in general, it was the Queen's English. I would stop into stores, in which I had no interest, just to hear the shopkeepers speak to me. Not like that anymore. I hear Farsi, Hindi, or some Eastern Euro language. No one speaks English (at least not UK English) any more. I have to go out from the city, many Km, just to hear the country's language again. Maybe that is why I am a fan of Lucy. Sorry for the tangent.....

                                           

                                           

                                          My DW and I took a cruise ship that departed near London and headed south to Italy and back last year.  There were about 20 yanks aboard.  The rest were Brits.  We got to hear the Queens English everywere.  It was a highligh of our trip.  Oh, and the criuse ship severed a lot of British food!

                                           

                                          To put this back on topic, I shot so much video I came back and HAD to learn PrE10.  Been loving what it's taught me since.

                                           

                                          Bill