30 Replies Latest reply: Jul 30, 2015 3:05 AM by GeoffVane RSS

    Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all

    Coyut

      When using the CS6 Premiere Pro Warp stabilizer it starts to analyze but doesn't start to convert after it has finished analyzing.

       

      - Add the Warp Stabilizer

      - Blue bar over picture shows up "Analyzing in Background (Part1 of 2)

      - Prozess finishes but nothing happens (Source does not get corrected, orange bar never shows up)

      - Another blue bar shows "Click Analyze to begin"

       

      When pressing Analyze the process starts over again without any result.

       

      The used footage is some mxf from a Canon C300

      The used PC gots 8 cores, 32GB Memory

       

      Update:

      When using a different Clip, or if i shorten the problematic clip, it seems to work now

       

      Info to problematic clip:

       

      File Path: xxx.MXF

      Type: XDCAM-HD Movie

      File Size: 44.5 MB

      Image Size: 1920 x 1080

      Frame Rate: 25.00

      Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16 bit - Mono

      Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Mono

      Total Duration: 00:00:07:05

      Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

      Compression Type: MPEG 4:2:2

        • 1. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
          shooternz Community Member

          So in fact ...it does work.

           

          And that would be my experience too.

           

          Why post a header as you did?  "....does not work at all"

          • 2. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
            Coyut Community Member

            Because the first few files did'nt work at all and some only do by changing the lenght in the comp, which is not really an option.

            I also marked the update status when i got it working for some files.

             

            After all it still doesn't work for some files as it should.

             

            I hope there's an fix soon to come...

            • 4. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
              Coyut Community Member

              32GB Ram and a current 6 core (hybperthreaded 12) cpu should be more then enough for 180 frames to be stabilized...
              Definitely not a memory problem.

               

              But thank you for your input.

              • 5. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                Angelis66

                I'm having the exact same problem but with XF300 MXF footage.

                 

                Warp Stabilizer doesn't work in Premiere for me and I have to use After Effects.

                • 6. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                  al_bergstein Community Member

                  Having the same problem with Warp and MXF (just applied updated  patch files from Adobe this morning before starting.). MXF footage, 1250 frames. 8GBs RAM. Lots of RAM available according to task manager (2.5 GBs free). Can't get past the Click to Analyze phase (I ran analyze twice). So I went ahead and exported to MXF setting. Got to 99% and is stuck there, with 0 time remaining.   However, TM shows it's still "running".

                   

                  When I cancel nothing happens, CS 6 does not respond, eventuallly crashes, and I restart.., found the footage that was being converted in the Acobe Project directory, but it is not converted and shows Click Analyze to Begin banner on the whole bit (G). Fun!


                  Back to CS 5.5 and wait for fix?

                   

                  Shot on MX105

                  XDCAM-HD Movie

                  File size 264.6 MB

                  Image size 1280x720

                  Frame Rate: 29.97

                  Compression type: MPEG 4:2:2

                  Duration: 42:15 (42 seconds)

                   

                  Windows 7 Ultimate

                  SP1

                  Dell

                  Studio XPS8100 i7 870@2.93 GHz

                  8 GB RAM

                   

                  CS 5.5 seems to be working fine, though I don't have PS installed on it, so have to move all footage needing to be converted to my Mac, PITA.

                   

                  Thanks in advance. Hope this helps Adobe!

                  • 7. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                    petergaraway Adobe Employee

                    Hi Coyut, Al and Angelis66

                     

                    I haven't been able to reproduce the issues you have listed. I've tested with files from C300, XF300 and MX100 plus others. Each time I get the expected behavior.

                     

                    Are you adjusting any of the Warp Stabilizer settings or leaving the default settings?

                    • 8. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                      al_bergstein Community Member

                      Using the default settings. I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait for it to come back to me. It's a short clip, so I would assume 10 minutes max???? Were your files you tested shot in slo mo? Not that it should matter.

                      • 9. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                        shooternz Community Member

                        FWIW

                         

                        Win7 CS6 24gb ram i7

                         

                        During the weekend I used Warp Stabiliser on a single avchd clip of 4 mins..6 secs duration.  ( Effect Default settings)

                         

                        The entire process took approx. 12 minutes per minute of footage  and was successful. 

                         

                        I exported the clip as an intermediate from the project I had set up just for this stabilising task..

                         

                        Issue then was...it was taking  a very long time to save the project...so I cancelled it.  (Did not have time to wait for it)

                         

                        Project size bloomed from 384kb to 17325kb

                        • 10. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                          jstrawn Adobe Employee

                          Disparity between the warp stabilizer in AE and the one in PrPro should reported as bugs so that they can be fixed. Inherent warp-stabilizer problems, like inordinately long rendering times or project size mushrooming should be reported as feature requests so that the effect can be optimized in future versions.

                           

                          Warp stabilizer is a useful effect but it still has some serious limitations at this time. For best results, it's good to keep your clip size shorts and be judiciosu about what type of content you're applying it to.

                          • 11. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                            shooternz Community Member

                            Just to be clear...I was impressed with the time ( 1 hour) it took to stabilise my 4 minute clip.

                             

                            Also : I had to stabilize the entire clip because it was a one scene,  movie for a short film competition.

                            • 12. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                              jstrawn Adobe Employee

                              Shooterz, my comment was not aimed directly at you. I only hit reply to your comment out of convenince. It's good to know what your user scenario was. I have some long clips (10-20 minutes) that I have tries to stabilize for essentially the same reason (because the represented one contiguous shot), and have had enormous difficulties getting them to complete successfully.

                               

                              All: There are already bugs logged against such perfrmance limitations, which is why I suggested that those sort of things should really be logged as enahncement requests... but if you log them as bugs anyways, no harm. (I was going to clarify my earlier post as such, but for some reason the 'edit' option is currently unavailable to me on this thread.

                              • 13. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                Zoop studio Community Member

                                I'm glad I still have the Mercalli/ Prodad stabilizer, just updated for free to the new CS6 supported version.

                                Always works well, no matter the lenght of the clip.

                                I think the Warp is slightly better but for now Mercalli is the way to go. 

                                • 14. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                  Angelis66 Community Member

                                  Re-installed CS6 and now Wap Stabiliser in Premiere Pro works fine, but I can no longer use the "Replace with After Effects composition" option.

                                   

                                  I'm seriously considering going back to 5.5

                                  • 15. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                    GeoffVane Community Member

                                    The same here. The stabilizer works fine in After Effects. The same shot in Premiere does not give any result after the rendering. The rendered result is not transfered to the timeline. (the 3D cameratracker is not really working in either program)

                                     

                                    EDIT: I found I need to render the timeline (by pressing enter) to render the effect again. So, the analyzer stabilizes everything, but doesn't apply the results unless you render the timeline, again.

                                    This means twice the render time, compared to After Effects. I think it's a program coding error.

                                    • 16. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                      tclark513 Community Member

                                      GeoffVane wrote:

                                       

                                      The same here. The stabilizer works fine in After Effects. The same shot in Premiere does not give any result after the rendering. The rendered result is not transfered to the timeline. (the 3D cameratracker is not really working in either program)

                                       

                                      EDIT: I found I need to render the timeline (by pressing enter) to render the effect again. So, the analyzer stabilizes everything, but doesn't apply the results unless you render the timeline, again.

                                      This means twice the render time, compared to After Effects. I think it's a program coding error.

                                      Check your Project size?  Premiere has a problem with Warp Stabilizer where it will increase your project to unmanageable sizes.  Premiere will slow down to a crawl.

                                      • 17. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                        GeoffVane Community Member

                                        Nope, no extreme Premiere project size. Just the double rendering. I'll keep using AE for the time being, until the issue has been solved.

                                        • 18. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                          Alan Craven Community Member

                                          So that is why my project file is heading for 600,000 KB on a 25 minute single timeline !

                                           

                                          Project save/autosave is odd, sometimes it is OK, others it seems to take forever.

                                           

                                          I too have Mercalli and get good results there.  I find that Warp is successful only on fairly static clips, and even there, I have had some odd results, e.g. an unexplained zoom in mid-clip, and some alarming jello effects where there is moving water in the clip.

                                          • 19. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                            Deaf-Danny Community Member

                                            sorry to BUMP.

                                             

                                            I am doing a 5hrs and 23mins of vacation video which has lots os shanky camera parts. My video hangs on to 'Analyzing in background (Step 1 of 2)' I have left it going on from 5pm last night on to today. Should it really take that long?

                                             

                                            I have 4GB RAM, Windows 7.

                                            • 20. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                              Harm Millaard Community Member

                                              Yes, it might be even longer with that amount of memory and probably the lacking CPU.

                                              • 21. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                J. Simon Community Member

                                                5hrs and 23mins of vacation video

                                                 

                                                I'm reeeeeeally glad we're not related.

                                                • 22. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                  Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                  I could not help laughing at Jim's remark. I remember showing my 20 minute video of our trip to Italy to my brothers way back in 2002. In fact, it was my first Premiere project. I had the sense to cut it way down from 20 one hour tapes to 20 minutes. My oldest brother may have thought he was being a little insulting with his remark, but I was overjoyed. He said "It looks like a PBS travelogue." That was, of course, exactly what I was going for with the video and the voiceover.

                                                   

                                                  In any case, I was able to use Warp Stabilizer this weekend on some footage of a children's birthday party. I can't show the results because of the subject matter. Not that they were doing anything wrong other than savagely beating a poor Super Mario Brother's pinata, but I don't have a release for them all.

                                                   

                                                  I was a bit surprised at how long it took. I have a state of the art PC, and apparently the GPU doesn't help. I liked the results, but I sure would like to know what resources the effect utilizes. This is a screenshot of what it looked like about two minutes into the 11 minute process (the effect window estimated 8 minutes) for stabilizing a 60 second video (1800 frames). I think maybe I will start another thread to inquire about this. The CPU wasn't even breathing hard, the hard drives I am using for cache are in RAID0 - so should be reasonably fast.  Hmmm. I wonder?

                                                   

                                                  performance screenshot.png

                                                  • 23. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                    Deaf-Danny Community Member

                                                    Upgrading my RAM in a few weeks ran the and it took 48 hours but got a virtual memory issue when I came home from work and it only had 1hour to go :-(. Hopeful RAM upgrade will do it ant other ways I could do it for now would not be upgrading the RAM for another 2months

                                                    • 24. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                      Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                      It depends on the footage you shot, however, perhaps if you slice the footage up into smaller portions - using natural breaks where a transition or breakaway to b-roll might take place, then you can apply Warp to shorter clips. Probably with a lot less problem. Give it a try. I read about doing that in the Help files - although technically it was for After Effects 5.5

                                                       

                                                      -- Steven

                                                      • 25. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                        KenK

                                                        I have 6 approximately one minute clips that need the warp stabilizer applied, then all six will be produced into one video. A comment was made to do each clip individually, save, and then combine the individually stabilized clips back into the project, or something to that effect.

                                                         

                                                        I have the CS6 Master Collection, so what I need to know is some specifics as to what application is best to use to stabilize the individual clips, and what extensions to save-as before bringing back into PrPro for the final additions/transitions and then exporting the project.

                                                         

                                                        I use a Windows 7 Pro CPU (64-bit OS, AMD Phenom II x 4 925 Processor 2.80 GHz), 8 GB RAM memory, 8 GB exFAT ReadyBoost. All clips were shot in HD. I'm somewhat green and your good advice will be much appreciated.

                                                         

                                                        Thanks, 

                                                        Ken   

                                                        • 26. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                          Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                          Ken,

                                                           

                                                          That is not exactly what was meant by breaking up the footage.

                                                           

                                                          Put all of the clips on the same timeline if you wish. Just apply the Warp Stabilizer to each one. It will take some time to analyze the footage, and you probably ought to think about what you want to do with any sections that are really too shaky to properly fix. Usually a little B-roll takes care of that, or use time remapping to create some slow motion for the area just before the problem footage, so you can possibly cut out the offending frames. Or use a snapshot.

                                                           

                                                          One minute is a lot of frames. However, sometimes you have no choice.

                                                           

                                                          Some footage is just too terrible to use. Don't try to save it. Just use the Stabilizer of slightly shaky footage. Slightly. OK?

                                                           

                                                          No need to use any other programs. No exporting until the project is finished.

                                                          • 27. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                            a7491@drdrb.com Community Member

                                                            BGuys I have wxcatly the same problem. But in my case NOTHING HAPPEN every time when I want to use Stabilization. I only see this frame bar in every segment on my project:

                                                             

                                                            http://i.imgur.com/imgO4Qi.png

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            And I can't do anything. When I start to add this stabilization I will be see this blue bar till I close my project.

                                                            My computer is very good for video montage: i7 3930k 6xcore (12 core), GeForce 660 GTX and 32 GB RAM

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            I also notice one interesting thing. I have to close my project and open again to see options of this effect (last time in "effects" menu I don't see any FX added in this place, so I can't modify anything). Then... When I add a Warp Stabilizer effect to my clip, "Warp Stabilizer" is adding 3x the same FX.

                                                            When I go to "effects" menu I always see a 3 times the same effect added. I don't know why this happened. I drag and drop one time and I always see 3 times only this effect in my "effects" menu.

                                                            • 28. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                              Ann Bens ACP/MVPs

                                                              If Pro is acting weird: close PPro.

                                                              Start PPro with holding down Shift+Alt until welcome screen.

                                                              Then clean out Media Cash.

                                                              See if that will help.

                                                              • 29. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                                beaus31957056

                                                                Same problem. Says click to Analyze and then it does not. I'm on a new Mac Pro with Sony A7S MXF. Seems like a legit problem.

                                                                • 30. Re: Warp Stabilizer in CS6 does not work at all
                                                                  GeoffVane Community Member

                                                                  Okay. The feature is now on my BOGUS list as not working.
                                                                  Thanks for responding guys!