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1. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 5:49 AM (in response to davehaigh)Instead of a separate frame, use a table. Tables are treated as normal text.
Bob
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2. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 5:56 AM (in response to BobLevine)I have considered this approach, but, eventually the InDesign layout is getting exported to HTML and an ePub and I would rather export these paragraph styles out to a div tag rather than a table tag.
Is that the only solution?
Do you know if there is a way to do something as explained in the "UPDATE:..." section above?
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3. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 6:01 AM (in response to davehaigh)There is no other way I can think of.
Bob
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4. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to BobLevine)Is what I have explained in the "UPDATE:..." section above do-able? or do you not know?
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5. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 6:15 AM (in response to davehaigh)That is nothing I ever even tried to do and quite frankly I don’t have time to try it now.
Why not give it a go yourself?
Bob
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6. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 6:19 AM (in response to BobLevine)Oh I am trying to do it myself, but not succeeding as yet. I was asking, as if you knew the answer as being no, then I wouldnt waste my time trying, dont expect you to try things out for me if you dont already know.
Tables instead of seperate frames is a possible solution (thanks for that answer) to this but use of seperate frames would be alot better if I can get a solution to editors working with them easier.
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7. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 6:26 AM (in response to davehaigh)The only other thing I can think of is to insert a note. This could then be converted to actual text.
Bob
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8. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 6:35 AM (in response to BobLevine)The creation of text is not a problem. An editor can put text into their incopy doc and give it a para style and that comes into the layout file fine, it's the wrapping of that text in a frame to give the visual style seen in the screenshot above that I am trying to achieve via incopy.
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9. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 6:39 AM (in response to davehaigh)Use a table. Even going to epub it should still be fine with the proper CSS styling.
Bob
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10. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 6:58 AM (in response to BobLevine)True. But when all I am trying to achieve is a border around a paragraph, use of a table seems overkill to me. But if thats the only solution I have so far then I will have to go down that route.
It would be useful to have an object libraries panel in InCopy so that editors can drag across predefined text frames into their doc via InCopy, but I cant see that option in InCopy. is there one? I have also thought about exporting the frames as seperate InDesign Snippets and saving them to an objects folder, then when an editor needs to insert one into their doc they simply use File > Place > "Choose required text frame snippet". However I have found that InCopy can't place InDesign snippets so that theory was a failure. Is there another format I could use to save the objects and bring them into InCopy? List below shows my findings so far for trying to save/export a text frame from InDesign and then import into InCopy:
- InDesign Snippet (.idms) - can't import into InCopy
- InDesign Document (.indd) - imports content as an image - only editable in InDesign
- InDesign Template (.indt) - imports content as an image - only editable in InDesign
- InDesign Library (.indl) - can't import into InCopy - no panel available in InCopy for object libraries (that I can see...)
- InCopy Markup (.icml) - only imports the text, loses the text frame
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11. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 7:27 AM (in response to davehaigh)You could use a table and then convert the table to text. I still don’t see where this would be much different than just leaving the table alone.
Bob
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12. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 7:33 AM (in response to BobLevine)Do you mean convert the table to text just before performing the export to ePub? So that I only end up exporting a paragraph? That would work, but if I have 500 of these tables in a document to convert to text before exporting it becomes too time consuming on the workflow and prone to human error. Unless there is a mass option to "convert all tables of style 'X' to text" ?
Leaving the table alone and exporting as it is, is a possibility, as i've said previously, but that gives unecessary HTML markup in the exported ePub.
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13. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
BobLevine Aug 8, 2012 7:44 AM (in response to davehaigh)Check the InDesign scripting forum. I suspect it would not take long to come up with a script that would convert tables to text and apply the proper paragraph style to give you what need.
Bob
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14. Re: Can an InCopy editor add, remove and edit a text frame placed inside the main story text frame?
davehaigh Aug 8, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to BobLevine)If I decide to go down that route then i'll peruse the scripting forum for some advice on getting a script to do that. Thanks for your input.


