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      • 40. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."

        Same question, different problem.  Our military contractor requires that the blank page be completely blank - no page number - nothing.  However, the previous page must indicate that the next page is blank, as in 2-1 (2-2 blank) (in the footer/page number).  I can't figure out how to advance the page number (2-2).  We inherited this document, and the previous owner had a different master page for every page that required this notification (over 100 master pages!).  There's got to be a better way, but I haven't been able to figure it out.

        • 41. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
          meganew Community Member

          Thank you, Luca.


          To Jive: Wow. That's a new one on me.



          I guess you will need to create a master page with no headers or footers, but I don't know how you would program the page numbers into the last page of the document (for example, 2-2 blank). That wacky military. I just finished a military contract, which is why I needed to learn how to do the page intentionally blank in the first place.



          I guess you could follow my directions for creating the TPILB, but leave the frame that contains the words "Page intentionally left blank" empty. That would solve your advancing the page issue and you could remove the headers and footers from the master page with the blank frame. But I'm stumped when it comes to adding the text to reflect what the next page number will be. Sorry. I'll think about this and try to find a solution...


          By the way, if anyone knows of anyone hiring a very experienced writer in MD or VA, please let me know (how's that for a shameless plug??).

          • 42. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
            meganew Community Member

            Oops, sorry oatsybob. My last post was to  you. The address shown said to jive-xxx, so I addressed it to Jive.

            • 43. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."

              Hi all! I am using FM 8 and I was able to apply this rule, but for some reason, it does not apply to my TOC file or to pages where I only have tables (even though I have included the formats used there in the mapping table). Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong??



              This is how I've automatically applied the TPILB at the end of my even page chapters:

              1. Go to COVER file
                1. Create Reference mapping table: Format - Page Layout - Apply Master Pages
                2. Create LeftContent master page: Special - Add master page - copy from left - name "LeftContent"
                3. Go to Master page view and on the default LEFT page:
                  1. Insert text box and write: This page is intentionally left blank.
                4. Go to Reference page view
                  1. Book update: Yes
                  2. Fill in  Mapping table with conditions (the more the safer):


                  1. Format - Page Layout - Apply Master Pages
                1. Leave COVER file open and select the rest of files in the book
                  1. Import format:
                    1. Page layout
                    2. Reference pages
                1. Update book - select all, including Apply Master Pages




              Thanks in advance for your help!

              • 44. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                Joe Hus Community Member

                Hi Meganew,

                Can we apply your suggested method to removing  blank pages inserted by FraemMaker. I still can NOT remove  blank pages even though  I used all suggestiins in this forum.




                • 45. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                  meganew Community Member

                  Hello Joe,


                  If blank pages are being inserted, it's probably because the settings in the book template. You can make the book single page or double page. If it's double pages, it will insert the blank pages so that your chapters start on an odd page number for printing purposes. I don't have FrameMaker in front of me, so I can't tell you the exact steps, but if you click your book and click settings, you should be able to fix that issue.


                  Let me know if that solves your issue.




                  • 46. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                    Joe Hus Community Member

                    Many thanks Megan,

                    I tried all solutions,nothing worked. In a single chapter I can delete empty pages using pagination command in format. As soon as I update the book empty pages appear.

                    Any ideas?



                    • 47. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                      meganew Community Member

                      Hello Joe,


                      Sounds like there are elements being inherited from files somewhere.


                      Did you try this?


                      When you generate and update a book, the files in the book inherit structure information from the book file. A file’s Element Catalog may have inclusions and exclusions from the book, and other inherited information in the file may affect the formatting of its text elements.

                      If you delete a file from a book to use the file as a stand-alone document, reapply the file’s element definitions to remove any structure information that came from the book. If the file’s text formatting was affected by this structure information, reapplying the definitions also restores the file’s original formatting.

                           1. Make the appropriate document window or book window active. If a book window is active, select the documents you want to affect.

                           2. In the file, choose File > Import > Element Definitions.

                           3. Leave the Import from Document pop-up menu set to Current, select While Updating: Remove Information Inherited from Book, and click Import.

                      • 48. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                        meganew Community Member

                        Hello Ana,


                        I had the same problem. The only solution I found was after generated my TOC, TOT, TOF, I would add an extra line below the table and tag it as "intentionally blank." It's not graceful, but it worked.


                        Let me know if that helps.




                        • 49. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                          Mike Wickham Community Member

                          In addition to checking to see if book chapter pages have been set to

                          always be even in count, look to see if the chapters that follow are set

                          to begin specifically on a right or left hand page. For example, if

                          chapters are set to start on a right-hand page and is chapter 1 is three

                          pages long,  it will also end on a right-hand page. Chapter 2 MUST then

                          insert an extra left-hand page in order to start on a right-hand page.

                          • 50. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                            ana030 Community Member


                            Thank you for replying! That worked indeed, but I still do not have a solution for the tables that run across several pages. My temporary solution is either to manually assign a different master page or split the tables and insert an extra line of each page, but I was hoping for something automatic




                            • 51. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                              max_drawdown Community Member



                              Great idea.  Thanks for posting.


                              I'm testing it here. It works in most cases.


                              Anomalies that I see are:

                              • A table is the last content in a file and continues across a page boundary. The last page in the file, with the continued part of the table, is mapped to Left (not Left.Used). The table anchor paratag and table title paratag appear in the mapping table. This consistent with ana030's results.
                              • Generated files, such as a TOC. Same as before, the paratags for the (apparently) first paras in flow A on each page are in the mapping table, but no luck: Left (not Left.Used) and Right (not Right.Used) are being mapped.


                              Definitely worth more testing here. So far I'm stumped on these two anomalies.


                              Best regards,

                              • 52. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                                Michael314 Community Member



                                I was going through some mail for my elderly mother and, in one of the renvelopes was a blank, white, plastic credit card with this printed on it.


                                This card intentionally left blank.


                                As Charlie Brown would say: Good Grief!




                                Michael F.


                                • 53. Re: "Page intentionally left blank."
                                  max_drawdown Community Member

                                  So, re: pages with table continuation, apparently none of the paratags of the table is the first paratag of flow A on the page.


                                  I wonder how we could learn if FM believes a paratag is "on" that page at all? And if so, which one?

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