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1. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Bill Hunt Aug 14, 2012 8:33 AM (in response to Richbilt)How did you create the Crawl?
There is a Preset in the Titler for either a Crawl, or Roll, but one can also Keyframe the Fixed Effect>Motion>Position to do the same thing, and with more control.
In that Keyframe method, one can set the Interpolation of the Keyframes, and adjust the Velocity, as desired.
With either method, one would want to Render the Timeline for best playback, though that should NOT affect the Exported file.
Let us know a bit more, please.
Good luck,
Hunt
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2. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richbilt Aug 14, 2012 10:59 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)Thanks Bill. I didn't use (or know about!) the keyframe method. I simply chose 'crawl' from in the titler then stretched the title across the full length of the video. It has around 100 or so words in the one title.
Reading your reply, I'm getting the gist of what you're suggesting (which i'd love to try) - do you know where I might find some sort of tutorial as I've not come across doing it this way?
Also, would this smoothen the exported video? I've read elsewhere that setting the framerate might be key here - so it matches the output fps, so it's a division of 60fps for ntsc or 50 for pal. Does that make sense?
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3. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Bill Hunt Aug 14, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to Richbilt)This would be a good place to get started: http://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/keyframing-made-simple
Good luck,
Hunt
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4. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Bill Hunt Aug 14, 2012 11:31 AM (in response to Richbilt)The Frame Rate, in your Sequence, should match that of your Video Footage.
Good luck,
Hunt
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5. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richbilt Aug 15, 2012 2:02 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)Right, i've tried the keyframing method (just a manual way to produce the automatic crawl i believe) and the judder is still there.
Essentially, the crawl is moving left to right in a juddery and blurry way - so I'm thinking the cause is the framerate.
I've taken a client's 640x480 30 fps mov file (as reported by windows explorer and the 'get properties' feature within premiere.
When i try and export from premiere - it says the source file is 15fps.
Question - any idea why premiere appears to be reporting the wrong frame rate?
Question - any idea what output settings i should use to try and match the crawl with the output?
Thanks!
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6. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Harm Millaard Aug 15, 2012 2:17 AM (in response to Richbilt)Question - any idea why premiere appears to be reporting the wrong frame rate?
That is assuming Windows Explorer reports correctly on the properties, which is doubtful. Use MediaInfo to determine the codec and properties of your clips.
Question - any idea what output settings i should use to try and match the crawl with the output?
That depends on the output requirements. For DVD they are different than web and different for BR.
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7. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richbilt Aug 15, 2012 2:59 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks Harm,
Premiere also reports that it's 30fps - when I choose 'get properties for...' option from the file menu within Premiere it shows 30fps, so i'm pretty sure it's 30 fps.
Output - it'll be uploaded to youtube ultimately. So i'll keep it in any file format that Youtube will accept (probably avi but i'm flexible). As long as I can output this crawl correctly in the first place i'll convert to which ever format I need to upload!
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8. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richbilt Aug 15, 2012 3:11 AM (in response to Richbilt)Yes, confirmed 30fps in mediainfo.
Mpeg-4, 640x480, 4:3, AVC (whatever AVC is!)
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9. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richard M Knight Aug 15, 2012 6:32 AM (in response to Richbilt)Does the crawl look better slower?
With fast crawls on 100hz tvs it often looks like there are two titles following each other, this is because each frame is shown more than once and the eye/brain thinks there are two titles. The same happens with film being projected with a split shutter.
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10. Re: Help Needed with Juddering Title Crawl on Premiere CS5
Richbilt Aug 15, 2012 6:48 AM (in response to Richard M Knight)It does look better slower, yeah. It was only crawling pretty slowly across the screen - slower than normal reading speed, but yes, slowing it further does make things more readable (in terms of being able to make out what the text actually says!). I'm actually experimenting with reducing speed further (and frame blending) at the moment.
I'm only viewing it on a 60hz lcd computer monitor though - which is what most people will be watching it on youtube (and when editing videos) i'd guess?
update - frame blending doesn't seem to make any difference on a crawling title



