12 Replies Latest reply: Aug 16, 2012 3:16 AM by -Agfaclack- RSS

    xmp-metadata

    durhj

      How to add and edit xmp-metadata?

        • 1. Re: xmp-metadata
          -Agfaclack- Community Member

          durhj wrote:

           

          How to add and edit xmp-metadata?

           

           

          ....with lightroom. 

           

          sorry man but your question is a bit short.. i don´t know where to begin.

           

          in the library modul of lightroom you edit the metadata.

          if you can ask a more precise question that would be great...

          • 2. Re: xmp-metadata
            howmanypigginnamesdoitry Community Member

            The xmp metadata is edited right from within Lightroom itself.

            If you're in library module, all the boxes are on the right hand side.

            You can even set some so that for instance, it adds a copyright to every

            image as you import them, or you can set often used keywords in a group

            ready to add to an image.

            You might want to ensure that your xmp is held in sidecar files, rather

            than contained within the image. That way you've got the most

            compatibility with other programs.

            • 3. Re: xmp-metadata
              -Agfaclack- Community Member

              ... or you use DNG and have the benefit that you don´t have to bother with cumbersome sidecar files.

               

              depending on your camera it´s even possible you have better compatibility using DNG then the original RAW format.

              • 4. Re: xmp-metadata
                dj_paige Community Member

                -Agfaclack- wrote:

                 

                ... or you use DNG and have the benefit that you don´t have to bother with cumbersome sidecar files.

                 

                depending on your camera it´s even possible you have better compatibility using DNG then the original RAW format.

                I find nothing cumbersome about sidecar files. Lightroom manages them, so I don't have to. And furthermore, you can even run Lightroom without writing xmp to the sidecar files (or DNG files).

                • 5. Re: xmp-metadata
                  howmanypigginnamesdoitry Community Member

                  Does converting to DNG mean you can't use proprietary software on your

                  RAW files after that?

                  • 6. Re: xmp-metadata
                    dj_paige Community Member

                    howmanypigginnamesdoitry wrote:

                     

                    Does converting to DNG mean you can't use proprietary software on your

                    RAW files after that?

                    Yes, that is correct, the camera maunfacturer's software will not work on DNG files. Of course, you could keep the original RAW in the proprietary format AND the DNG for LR use.

                    • 7. Re: xmp-metadata
                      -Agfaclack- Community Member

                      dj_paige wrote:

                       

                      I find nothing cumbersome about sidecar files.

                       

                      i do.

                       

                      i have to copy a lot of files from and to harddisks, usb sticks.

                      it can happen that i miss one of the xmp files.

                       

                      for some clients i have to rename the image files.

                       

                      with xmp it´s extra steps to take care of.

                       

                      thought, if i would only work in LR i would maybe not care.

                       

                       

                       

                      dj_paige wrote:

                       

                      And furthermore, you can even run Lightroom without writing xmp to the sidecar files (or DNG files).

                       

                      i always write XMP data into the DNG file... it gives me an extra layer of security in case something goes wrong.

                      • 8. Re: xmp-metadata
                        howmanypigginnamesdoitry Community Member

                        That's an awful lot of storage space....

                        • 9. Re: xmp-metadata
                          -Agfaclack- Community Member

                          DNG is smaller then most RAW formats.

                           

                          of course if you need to store the original RAW files too, because you also work with the camera manufacturer software, it´s a lot of extra space that is needed.

                           

                          i only use DNG, for years now... had no reason to regret it.
                          thought i never touched DPP in all the years.

                          • 10. Re: xmp-metadata
                            dj_paige Community Member
                            i have to copy a lot of files from and to harddisks, usb sticks.

                            it can happen that i miss one of the xmp files.

                             

                            for some clients i have to rename the image files.

                             

                            with xmp it´s extra steps to take care of.

                             

                            As I said, Lightroom handles all of this, so you don't have to specifically manage your XMP files. Not cumbersome to me.

                             

                            Now if you choose to do things outside of LR, that's your choice, although I see your point in that situation.

                            • 11. Re: xmp-metadata
                              durhj Community Member

                               

                              Unfortunately I can not so good English. Therefore my short question. I would like to explain now the problem nearer.

                               

                              I digitalized approximately 26000 slides with a scanner which now must be commented on. The required properties are not available in IPTC or Excif Format so that I would like to define and edit own fields as XMP-metadatas.

                               

                              Is my problem understandable?

                              • 12. Re: xmp-metadata
                                -Agfaclack- Community Member

                                try this:

                                 

                                http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ProductsAndServices/CustomMetadataLrPlugin/

                                 

                                but keep in mind that the custom metadata you add is only stored in the LR catalog. it´s not saved to the images itself, it´s not saved as XMP.

                                i find this a major limitation.

                                 

                                it does not seem to be a plugin developer problem (as all plugins have this problem) but more a problem of adobe and lightroom.

                                adobe lightroom SDK seems not very flexible when it comes to customizing the metadata fields in lightroom.

                                 

                                there are other programs who are way better at this.

                                kind of a shame when you think who was the driving force behind XMP.

                                 

                                if you need better customization and full XMP support you may want to have a look at. http://www.idimager.com/