5 Replies Latest reply on Aug 15, 2012 3:24 PM by groove25

    Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?

    EPS18 Level 1

      Is there any way to unlock the web layer so that it doesn't share all hotspots/slices on all states within a page?  I would like to modify the hotspots of a page based on the current state.

       

      Any help would be greatly appreciated!

      Mark

        • 1. Re: Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?
          groove25 Level 4

          I don't think there's a way to unlock or "unshare" hotspots/slices across states.

           

          At first, I was going to suggest this might be due to an assumption that interactive areas are more usable when they are consistent. When I think of States, I think of animation, and changing hotspots within an animation would be... unusual. Alternatively, I think of the states of a button symbol, which serve as visual cues or feedback to the user to communicate the interactive process. Changing hotspots in this scenario would be incoherent.

           

          Then it occurred to me that this limitation may be related to the HTML output, where hotspots and slices are hard-coded. They can't be changed "on the fly" (unless perhaps by a more advanced scripting method?).

           

          It might be worth describing what you're trying to accomplish in the larger sense, as there might be an alternative way to approach it.

          • 2. Re: Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?
            EPS18 Level 1

            I have a calendar.  The calendar is the page.  When a date is selected within the calendar I want there to be a state change on the calendar that brings up a date editor lightbox state.

             

            Using a state for the lightbox is the problem, because I want the hotspots used in the lightbox state to not be shared to the other states of the calendar.  Otherwise there is a mess of overlapping hotspots.

             

            However... If I don't use a state for the lightbox and instead make a separate page out of the lightbox then I can no longer access the other states of the calendar on the calendar page for the onclick behaviors of the lightbox.

             

            The only way I can think to do it within the confines of Fireworks is to use a separate page for every different interaction between the calendar page and the calendar lightbox editor... which gets overbearing to say the least.

            • 3. Re: Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?
              groove25 Level 4

              My experience with lightboxes is that they consist of a javascript, a javascript library, and a set of elements (e.g., images, swfs, or HTML pages) that will be "imported" into an existing HTML page. From your description, it sounds like those elements (i.e., the individual dates) might be small HTML pages. What type of lightbox script will you be using for this?

               

              I'm not sure that Fireworks can integrate with a lightbox script—in terms of generating a live, functional preview—but I'm no expert on that. It seems like Pages would be an appropriate choice here.

              • 4. Re: Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?
                EPS18 Level 1

                Can a hotspot be used to go to a specific state on a different page?

                 

                It seems like if you want to make any use out of states you have to do it all on the same page.

                • 5. Re: Web Layer locked into sharing on all states?
                  groove25 Level 4

                  To go to a specific state via a hotspot link, you'd need to be able to target that state somehow—for example, by assigning it an ID. But I don't think Fireworks offers that ability. Again, I think that's because states are intended primarily for creating animated GIFs. (FYI: States were originally called "frames".)

                   

                  You'd also have to think about how the state is being output. Pages are output as HTML files, but states... are usually components of an animated graphic, I think. Unless you export them separately as standalone files.

                   

                  I'm kind of talking off the top of my head here... These links may offer a bit more background on the intended uses of States and Pages:

                   

                  http://help.adobe.com/en_US/fireworks/cs/using/WS4c25cfbb1410b0021e63e3d1152b00db4b-7f72.h tml

                  http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/pages_states_layers.html

                   

                  I imagine you could design your calendar and its components in Fireworks, using separate pages. Then you'd output to HTML and have to do a bit of hand-coding to add the lightbox script and its accompanying javascript library (if required), as well as making any other small modifications necessary to "hook up" the lightbox to the HTML page, as directed by the instructions provided with the lightbox.