18 Replies Latest reply: Aug 20, 2012 9:30 AM by C_Cezrix RSS

    New files are saving to old dates...

    C_Cezrix

      Hi...

       

      We're having a problem with saving files...

       

      The specs:

      Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate; Photoshop CS6

       

      The problem:

      Files are saving to old dates... PSD file created say on Aug 04, 2012. Saved as a TIFF today, August 18. But the date shown in Windows Explorer is July 08, not today's date. Same thing happened with a JPG

       

      This doesn't seem to be happening with PSD files.

       

      Okay, so i looked into the file (the PSD) a bit and saw that the PSD file was derived from another PSD file that had been created on July 08.

       

      Now, for some reason all TIFFs and JPGs are taking the original created date and not the latest modified date.

       

      I've just given one example, but the problem seems to be happening across the board, In some cases, which is how it caught our eye, the file date goes back to Feb, though it was worked on and saved as a TIFF yesterday (August 17).

       

      Am sure it must be a setting problem but where? Grateful if anyone can point me to the solution...

       

      Thanks

       

      C

        • 1. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
          Mylenium MVP

          Are you actualyl sure you are viewing the modified date, not the "taken" date? Windows reads EXIF/ IPTC datas in formats that support this metadata and JPG and TIFF fit the bill...

           

          Mylenium

          • 2. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
            C_Cezrix Community Member

            Mylenium,

             

            Thanks for the reply...

             

            My information about the file creation came from File-> File Info-> Description (tab). The file creation and last modified dates are there.

             

            The point is the TIFFs and JPGs are taking the file created date of the PSD, even when I open the PSD today and save as a TIFF or JPG. They should be taking today's date. But the file date is showing as the "Created" date of the PSD file.

             

            Right clicking and looking up the properties on the TIFF/JPG file shows the actual date of creation / modification of that file. But the date in Windows Explorer shows the date that the original PSD file was first created. Not modified but created.

             

            To explain, for example:

             

            1. PSD file created on July 04.

            2. Opened, modified and resaved on July 18.

            3. Opened, modified and saved as another file - XX.psd on August 18.

            4. Saved as a TIFF or JPG on August 18 - XX.tif. The file date shows in Explorer shows up as July 04. Even though right click, Properties shows both the creation and last modified dates as August 18.

             

            That's the problem. Am not sure if it's a System problem or a setting in PS.

             

            And, as we've just discovered, it's happening across the board....

            • 3. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
              C_Cezrix Community Member

              Further, doubt if it's Sytemic as that would / should affect other programs as well???

              • 4. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                Noel Carboni Community Member

                What date are you looking at.  Can you please post screenshots to show the specifics?

                 

                Also, if you right-click the folder, then choose Properties, and click the Customize tab, what do you see in the "Optimize this folder for" tab?

                 

                -Noel

                • 5. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                  C_Cezrix Community Member

                  Hi Noel,

                   

                  Thanks... that did the trick, For some reason it was set to 'Pictures'. Resetting it to 'General Items' fixed the problem. Many, many thanks again. It was driving us nuts!!!

                   

                  But, still scratching head, why should it affect only files created in / from PS and why on earth would a file saved today, which has today's date in both the 'Created' and 'Modified' fields when viewing its properties, show an obscure old date?

                   

                  Cheers... C

                  • 6. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    Since it was set to Pictures I believe it was pulling the "date photo taken" date from within the EXIF data, rather than the file date.

                     

                    Windows has a bad habit of trying to interpret what's in your folder and assigning one of the folder types.  I've never found that to cause anything but confusion.

                     

                    There's a really handy registry tweak that can be done to Windows to make it always automatically interpret every folder it encounters as General Items by default, though you can still set individual folders to other views by hand.  I've documented that tweak and many others in my Windows 7 book titled Configure the Windows 7 "To Work" Options.  Here's an excerpt:

                     

                    BE VERY CAREFUL WHENEVER EDITING THE REGISTRY.

                    Set Explorer to Always Use General Items View

                     

                    Microsoft seems to feel you need to see different views of your files depending on predominantly what kinds of files Explorer finds in your folder.  From our perspective, that just makes Explorer more difficult to use.  They're all files, and we'd like to see them consistently in one way:  "General Items" view, showing the name, folder, date, etc.

                     

                    • Click Start, type regedit into the search box, then hit Enter.

                     

                    • If you do not want Explorer to try to auto-detect Folder Types but always use "General Items" for all, add this new String Value:

                     

                    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER \ Software \ Classes \ Local Settings \

                          Software \ Microsoft \ Windows \ Shell \ Bags \ AllFolders \ Shell]

                    FolderType  REG_SZ  NotSpecified

                     

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                      C_Cezrix Community Member

                      Thanks for that Noel...

                      • 8. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                        C_Cezrix Community Member

                        Noel...

                         

                        Further...

                         

                        Have gone drive by drive and changed all to 'General Items'... and yes, also enabled the subfolders option. But to edit the Registry I'd be grateful for a bit of help....

                         

                        1. I'm in Shell, Now do i create the entry as a folder under Shell, or as an entry in the root of Shell?

                        2. I'm presuming the latter.... so once I create the entry 'FolderType', I presume all i have to do is modify it and enter 'NotSpecified'. Am I correct?

                         

                        TIA,

                         

                        C

                        • 9. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                          Noel Carboni Community Member

                          Yes, the latter:  Create a value containing a String right in Shell.  Then once it's created and empty, double click it to edit it then type in:  NotSpecified

                           

                          This is how it should end up looking:

                           

                          RegEditFInished.png

                           

                          -Noel

                          • 10. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                            C_Cezrix Community Member

                            Got it Noel... Many thanks...

                             

                            Cheers!

                             

                            C

                            • 11. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                              Hudechrome Community Member

                              Hate to be a bubble pricker (no, I enjoy it! ) but I don't have the problem the OP has. I deliberately opened a pdf, flattened it and saved it as a tiff. In Bridge I see that the dates track correctly, no discrepancy. Further, Folder Properties say Pictures and there is no entry in the Registry either. Explorer has both the created and modified and Accessed as today's date. That makes sense because I did actually create the tiff today. (Explorer speaks Martian )

                               

                              BUT...

                               

                              if I open a tiff in ACR (as it is supposed to do), do nothing, then further open it in PS, do nothing, exit without Save Changes (no changes at all along the line) then look at it in Bridge, it says "Modified Today" which it wasn't. Also File Info does correctly record the dates as they were before doing the above routine. So there is a discrepancy of another sort going on.file info.JPG

                              • 12. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                C_Cezrix Community Member

                                Hi Hudechrome,,,

                                 

                                Don't know what you're seeing but I had a definite problem... and changing to 'General Items' - away from 'Pictures' - solved it.

                                 

                                Please read the thread carefully.

                                 

                                Cheers,

                                 

                                C

                                • 13. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                  Hudechrome Community Member

                                  Please read the thread carefully.

                                   

                                  I did, and I also attepted to replicate your condition and I could not. But I did see a different discrepancy.

                                   

                                  Before running Noel's routine, or any other for that matter, I want to have as complete an understanding concerning all replicatable factors. For instance, had I not checked how tiffs were behaving here, my response would have been: "I don't see the problem the OP has. My system runs as expected."

                                   

                                  When I am presented with a computer problem, I attempt to understand it from both specific and general terms. I catch interesting sightings along the way.

                                   

                                  BTW, my report here is not intended to be exhausive, as it might have to be, but I don't get paid here for going the distance. So I pick and choose my investigations.

                                   

                                  Cheers also!

                                   

                                  -Lawrence

                                  • 14. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                                    Lawrence, investigate the options for showing additional columns of data in "Pictures" view.  There are a lot that are not shown by default, but your settings for showing/hiding various columns may be set differently than others'.

                                     

                                    -Noel

                                    • 15. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                      Hudechrome Community Member

                                      One possibility is that "...apply this template to all subfolders" is unchecked.

                                       

                                      I changed to "General Folders" and checked the subfolder box.

                                       

                                      Hmm, I remember a fellow who lived in my old neighborhood whose last name was Fowlders. I believe he was a General in the Army or whatever!

                                      • 16. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                        C_Cezrix Community Member

                                        Hudechrome wrote:

                                         

                                        Please read the thread carefully.

                                         

                                        I did, and I also attepted to replicate your condition and I could not. But I did see a different discrepancy.

                                        Sorry Lawrence... i didn't mean to be rude or imply anything else. Really thought you hadn't quite got my problem. Anyway, it's duplicable.

                                         

                                        Just take an old PSD with an image that has EXIF data (the date the image was captured) and save it has a TIFF or JPEG from PS. Customise that folder to 'Pictures' and you'll see that the date of the file displayed in Explorer changes to the date of the pic. That's provided your column heading is just set to Date and not to Date Modified or any other such option.

                                         

                                        Cheers again!

                                         

                                        C

                                        • 17. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                          Hudechrome Community Member

                                          Ok I did another one, this time being sure that the Explorer settings is Pictures with the subfolders checked. I still do not see the things that you do, or I am not looking correctly. So here are two shots, one of the tiff in Bridge with the data and the other of the Explorer info.

                                          Fileinfo2.JPGFileinfo2_1.JPG

                                           

                                          As you can see, the explorer data all say today's date, which also agree with the info in Bridge So far as Explorer is concerned, this is an all-new image, which of course, it isn't. Is that the problem? I seldom refer to Explorer except if I am going to move a batch of shots, so I don't check the dates.

                                          • 18. Re: New files are saving to old dates...
                                            C_Cezrix Community Member

                                            Lawrence, the problem is not in Bridge or elsewhere. It's in Windows Explorer... If the date column is set to the basic date, it takes the date created - of, i presume, the earliest created component in the file - from the EXIF data.

                                             

                                            If your column heading in Windows Explorer is 'Date Modified' - or maybe 'Date Created' (haven't checked this out) - the problem doesn't occur.

                                             

                                            And, it only shows the 'old' date if the folder's properties - under 'Customize' - is set to 'Pictures'. Clicking the apply to subfolders option is only necessary if there are subfolders under the main folder. For instance, you can change the property - as i have done - on a drive and apply to subfolders. That takes care of the entire drive. (Apologies if i'm repeating something you already know which i'm sure, i suspect, is the case.)

                                             

                                            Can i suggest you do the following test:

                                            1. Create a new folder

                                            2. Right click and make sure that, under 'Customize', it's propert is set to 'Pictures', (You don't need to bother about the subfolders option.)

                                            3. Now, open an old PSD file that has an image with a date that precedes today's.

                                            4. Save it as a TIFF.

                                            5. Look at the date in Windows Explorer... you'll see that the date of the file is the date the image was created.

                                             

                                            You can even save the file first, then change the folder's properties in 'Customize'...

                                             

                                            Hope the above clarifies the problem I was facing...

                                            Cheers!