12 Replies Latest reply: Sep 4, 2012 2:20 PM by jbcooke RSS

    Need ability to lock audio / video track

    jbcooke Community Member

      I am still using PE4, relatively happily except for one thing -- the program's inability to lock the audio or video track(s) so changes to the other don't affect it. I have several short projects where the audio is one song/tune, about 3 minutes. I unlink audio and video at the start. At no point in the editing do I want to alter the audio track, but moving video clips breaks it, creates gaps, and requires constant reassembling. (I know I can export the audio track and bring it back in whole nd unaltered, but that step shouldn't be necessary, and wouldn't be if I could simply lock the audio track.)

       

      This inability is driving me to consider buying Premiere Pro or getting a Mac and learning Final Cut Pro. Financially, this is a big step. Before I take the plunge -- Does any later version of Premiere Elements offer the abilty to lock the audio (or video) track so changes in the other medium don't alter it?

       

      jbcooke

        • 1. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
          Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

          Hold down the Ctrl key (or the Cmd key on a Mac) when you add or remove clips from your timeline and all of the other clips on the timeline will remain in position.

          • 2. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
            jbcooke Community Member

            I tried holding down Ctrl this morning, but inserting a video clip in the Timeline still caused an equivalent gap to appear in the audio track. Is it possible that a later version of PE allows locking one track while working in another?

            • 3. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
              Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

              No. But holding down the Ctrl key when you add a new clip will allow you to add a new clip without affecting the positions of the other clips on the timeline.

               

              If you're still seeing a gap when you add a new clip, you're doing something wrong. Holding down the Ctrl clip overrides the ripple function.

              • 5. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                _techkid123_ Community Member

                Hi

                 

                Sorry , This feature was not avalable in Premiere Elements 4

                 

                Thanks

                Anish

                • 7. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                  As Track Locking has never been a part of PrE (maybe in PrE 11?), I always do things manually. I first Select all Clips to the right of where I wish to add a Clip, if the Ctrl "Ripple Edit" will not do what I want, then add the new Clip, and finally Select and Move all Clips (Audio & Video) from the right, to butt up.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 8. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                    the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                    JB,

                     

                    It looks like you are replying via e-mail, and your text is not being added. This happens with certain e-mail clients, with this forum.

                     

                    Can you please access the forums via the Internet and a browser, as your last two replies did not come in.

                     

                    Good luck,

                     

                    Hunt

                    • 9. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                      jbcooke Community Member

                      Thanks, Bill,

                       

                      I'll log on now and update the conversation.

                       

                      jbcooke

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                      in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."

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                      • 10. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                        jbcooke Community Member

                        Seems some of my email replies don't get posted to the thread, so here's an update.

                         

                        Steve Grisetti (8/20) suggested I try Ctrl (ripple-edit), but it turns out this feature isn't included in PE4, as Anish pointed out (8/22). My reply to him doesn't appear above. I asked him in what later version of PE the Ctrl (ripple-edit) feature was added.

                         

                        I will gladly upgrade to get this feature, but I would appreciate any cautions experienced users may have about any drawbacks in later versions. I gather PE 10 is current. I do very straightforward editing, no fancy tricks. Straight cuts in the video, with occasional dissolve transitions. I'm mostly editing footage transferred from 8mm that was shot silent. I construct sound tracks from scratch. I do almost no mixing in audio in PE. I prefer to do more complicated audio editing in the audio program Audacity, then bring the mixed track into PE as a *.wav file. (I do use PE's ability to adjust levels in each of the audio tracks individually - very handy.) I'll upgrade to PE 10, unless Bill, Steve and others have misgivings about it. If so, is it possible to upgrade to an earlier version, later than 4 but earlier than 10 that is better?

                         

                        jbcooke

                        • 11. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                          Steve Grisetti (8/20) suggested I try Ctrl (ripple-edit), but it turns out this feature isn't included in PE4, as Anish pointed out (8/22). My reply to him doesn't appear above. I asked him in what later version of PE the Ctrl (ripple-edit) feature was added.

                          The default insertion of a Clip, in PrE (including version 4) is to Ripple (move all Clips to the right of the insertion Point to accommodate the new Clip. The Ctrl key, turns that into an Insert Edit, replacing any Frames, necessary to accommodate the new Clip. This is the opposite default behavior in PrPro, where the Ctrl key allows all Clips to the right to move the required Duration. I think that there might be some confusion here.

                           

                          is it possible to upgrade to an earlier version, later than 4 but earlier than 10 that is better?

                          From Adobe, and most certified resellers, PrE 10, or the upcoming PrE 11, will be all that is available. However, one can often find legit earlier versions of PrE on sites, like eBay. Making sure that they ARE legit, can be a bit tough, however.

                           

                          Many users feel that PrE 10 is one of the best versions yet. I have not seen any reviews of the upcoming PrE 11, so cannot comment on it. It should be released within 11 to 20 days, if history holds. Usually, about this time, before a release, several publications issue reviews of the soon to be released versions, so they should be showing up very soon.

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 12. Re: Need ability to lock audio / video track
                            jbcooke Community Member

                            My previous reply by email to Bill H posted to the forum. I'll check

                            later to make sure this one is added:

                             

                            In PrE 4, clicking Edit > Paste Insert ripples all clips to the right,

                            but clicking only Edit > Paste overwrites (replaces) frames to the right

                            of the insertion point. In my recent tests, holding down Ctrl while

                            clicking Paste Insert had no effect. (I didn't try Ctrl + Paste.)

                             

                            If PrE 10 doesn't offer the ability to lock tracks, are there other

                            incentives to upgrade from PrE 4? I'm familiar with all the procedures I

                            use regularly and wouldn't want to go through a new learning curve

                            unnecessarily.

                             

                            jbcooke

                             

                             

                            --

                            "We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated

                            in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."

                            Justice Louis Brandeis