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1. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
JSS1138 Nov 27, 2012 10:16 AM (in response to tobi 238)My guess would be that Twixtor renders on the CPU, so the new GPU doesn't have any impact.
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2. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 11:03 AM (in response to JSS1138)Hi Jim,
thanks for sharing your thoughts. Since Twixtor is a plug-in for After Effects and Premiere Pro it's only working inside those programs and therefore I think it also utilizes the GPU.
Do you have any ohter ideas?
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3. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Jeff Bellune Nov 27, 2012 11:06 AM (in response to tobi 238)[moved to hardware forum]
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4. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
John T Smith Nov 27, 2012 11:11 AM (in response to tobi 238)>I think it also utilizes the GPU
Just because something is added to PPro does not automatically mean it is using the CUDA cores for anything
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html has some information
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5. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Harm Millaard Nov 27, 2012 11:21 AM (in response to tobi 238)In CS6 the Quadro 6000, despite it's exorbitant price does not come into play at all if combined with a Tesla card. It is only used to steer the monitors, so it is a very, very expensive choice to achieve that. A simple 620 can do the same job for a lot less. The Tesla M2090 is still outdated architecture and can't measure up to a simple GTX 670, and is outclassed by a simple 680.
On a system with only a 2600 CPU, the investment in a Quadro 6000 plus a Tesla M090 is absurd. € 3670 for the Quadro, € 2390 for the Tesla, making it a total cost of € 6060 is utterly ridiculous IMO on such a simple system. Talk about money down the drain...
And Jim is right, Twixtor does not use hardware acceleration.
You could have gotten better performance from a € 400 GTX 670.
Sorry to be so harsh, not as a personal insult, let it be a lesson to other readers that balancing a system is far more important than getting a single top-notch component in an otherwise mediocre system.
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6. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 11:22 AM (in response to John T Smith)That's right. I think that may be the reason. Have to check it out with other Premiere render effects.
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7. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 11:33 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks for the clear words. I appreciate that.
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8. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Harm Millaard Nov 27, 2012 11:53 AM (in response to tobi 238)I can imagine this was not the message you wanted to hear, but things may even be worse. By installing two cards, Quadro and Tesla, you may have forced the PCI-e bus down to 8x speed, resulting in a 15% performance penalty. Just a limitation of the chipset on that platform. Had you installed only a single GTX 670, you could have run at PCI-e 16x and avoided the performance penalty. (and saved more than € 5500).
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9. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 11:56 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Fortunately I got both cards dirt cheap and wanted to test them out after reading so glorious promises about them on the nvidia site. So, your advice would be to pull the tesla out to gain 15% but even better to pull them both out and get a GTX 670? I'm sure it'll be easy to get rid off them and get at least back what I paid for.
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10. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Harm Millaard Nov 27, 2012 12:14 PM (in response to tobi 238)Why don't you start out with only pulling the Tesla card and see how it works?
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11. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 1:17 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Done. Pulled the tesla. Same with Twixtor effects, just like you said. Other effects like three way colorcorrection looks like it runs quite faster. What would in your opinion be reasonable hardware improvements to minimize rendertimes?
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12. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
John T Smith Nov 27, 2012 1:47 PM (in response to tobi 238)>hardware improvements
Re-read message 5 where Harm already gave you ideas
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13. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Bill Gehrke Nov 27, 2012 2:14 PM (in response to tobi 238)tobi 238 wrote:
. What would in your opinion be reasonable hardware improvements to minimize rendertimes?
Lets now get down to what you call "render times". Is this rendering the timeline, or is it encoding/transcoding to a new output format?
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14. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
tobi 238 Nov 27, 2012 2:29 PM (in response to Bill Gehrke)the timeline.
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15. Re: No speed gain after major hardware upgrade. Wrong settings for nvidia quadro 6000 + tesla m2090?
Bill Gehrke Nov 27, 2012 3:40 PM (in response to tobi 238)The real secret is to find a way to avoid having to render the timeline. Adobe has found a way and of course that is to use the GPU. If indeed Twixtor does not use the GPU than you should try to avoid using it. If that is impossible then you need a new more powerful CPU/Motherboard and overclocking to cut your timeline rendering time.



