8 Replies Latest reply on Jan 18, 2013 7:38 AM by dj_paige

    LR Vs Elements organiser

    howmanypigginnamesdoitry Level 1

      I've been looking at LR 4.3 and Elements.

      If you have Elements 11, with it's fairly decent organiser, is there

      actually a need for Lightroom?




        • 1. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
          dj_paige Level 10

          In my opinion, you can't talk about only the Organizer in PSE vs only the Library Module in Lightroom, because both are integrated with the rest of their respective programs.


          Nevertheless, in my opinion, having used both, the Lightroom Library module is a superior piece of software compared to the PSE Organizer. By that I mean, Lightroom's Library module has more powerful tools, a smoother and more logical interface, and fewer and less serious bugs than the PSE Organizer (although I am not saying that the LR Library Module is bug-free).


          Given the integration of the Organizer/Library Module to the rest of their respective programs, I would recommend that anyone who owns both programs use Lightroom's Library Module as the "organizer", and Lightroom's Develop Module as the primary editor, with PSE's Organizer as the secondary editor. It does not make sense to me to use thse two programs in any other configuration.


          Of course, if you want to choose/buy only one piece of software, then that's a different story, and of course you would pick the one that meets your needs the best.

          • 2. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
            howmanypigginnamesdoitry Level 1

            I've got both programs and have always used LR only until recently.

            The problem is LR has major performance issues for me, and even just

            using the brush to cover dust bunnies can take ten minutes to do half a


            The constant waiting for photos to load in develop module, I just wonder

            if Elements can do everything LR can do, there is no need for LR.

            I suppose it's a case of start using it and see if I miss Lightroom. So

            far in 2 days there's nothing I've found that Elements can't do that LR

            can so I am interested in others' opinions.



            • 3. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
              dj_paige Level 10

              The two programs have different capabilities and different strengths. Of course there are things that Lightroom can do that PSE cannot do (and vice versa).


              But if PSE meets your needs, then as I said, that's the one you should pick.

              • 4. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
                howmanypigginnamesdoitry Level 1

                I was hoping someone could shed some light......

                • 5. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
                  dj_paige Level 10

                  There is no complete list of the differences between LR and PSE, that I know of. It would be a pretty long list, IMHO.


                  Perhaps you could shed some light and tell us what functions are important to you, and then we can inform you whether they exist in PSE or LR or both.

                  • 6. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
                    johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

                    I second Paige's advice. If you have strong needs for organizing and searching a large number of photos, LR is superior to PSE, both in functionality and the number of bugs. Adobe is still actively supporting LR, which is marketed to demanding professionals and prosumers, while it off-shored the PSE Organizer to a bargain-basement engineering team years ago.  (I maintained the primary PSE Organizer FAQ before finally defecting to LR.)


                    So get LR for its Library and Develop module ($114 at Amazon) and the PSE Editor ($70) for the small percentage of time you need Photoshop's pixel-editing.

                    • 7. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
                      howmanypigginnamesdoitry Level 1

                      I thought maybe there was someone who had in depth knowledge of both and

                      could compare and contrast. No worries, I'll do it myself and find out.

                      Thanks for taking the time to reply.

                      • 8. Re: LR Vs Elements organiser
                        dj_paige Level 10

                        I'm not going to even try to type in a complete list of differences between the two programs (in fact, I don't even know EVERY feature of both programs, so it is an impossible task).


                        But if you were to specify certain features of interest, I'm sure that I (and others) could compare LR to PSE.