Shoot Upside-down Video on Purpose

Sheesh

When you edit or preview...the Source footage will display up side down . What a hassle!

Make a simple L or U Bracket to suspend the camera right way up.

I'd agree.  Do some research, I'm sure you'll find way to hang them properly without adding too much to the drop.

Shooternz is right.  An L bracket is the right way to go.

As long as you're not scaling or changing the resolution, a horizontal or vertical flop should not degrade the quality of your image.

I wouldn't mind the time involved in rotating the file to use as a totally new source first before editing.

In that case...

You will get a generational quality loss.   

....as well as (maybe) a bigger file than you started with 

....and so a storage issue.

You may lose timecode information on the duplicate file as well.

All your clips will need a "rotate" effect applied separately and exported separately...or else you will be working with one large and long source clip.

Still think its worth it?

Brackets....lots of stuff available..like Flash Unit extenders for SLRs  or Flat screen TV wall mounts....

Instead, I would talk to a rigger/grip, and come up with the mechanicals to allow you to do it correctly.

Hunt

but I just want somebody to answer me, "will there definitely be a generational loss with rotating a digital video clip?".

Thought I answered that but  I said Yes

You export out  so there has to be a generation produced.

In your case...I doubt that its going to affect you though ...and it does depend what you export the DI out as  .

Why dont you do a little test?

Let's be clear. My friends are answering the question you asked, but not supplying the information I believe you actually might need.

If you are rotating the video and immediately exporting, then yes, you have a generational loss.

If you are cutting, plus adding effects of any kind to include transitions, color correction, noise reduction, anything at all, then it is all the same generation. You can't avoid the one generation loss. But it is not an extra generation. It is still the same one from the color correction (a common issue with stage productions).

I might be inclined to stick all of the upside down video on new sequences, rotate the video, and then use the new sequences as the clips to edit in the main sequence. That way the motion effect won't be on the clip and possibly get in your way.

Edit  nested sequences.

Nice thinking Steven.

Thanks.

It took me a long time to warm up to the idea of nesting, and now I can't remember a project that didn't end up with a final sequence that consisted of nested sequences within nested sequences. I use nesting like After Effects people use precomps.

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it would be really easy to come up with some ceiling or wall mounts, maybe even magnetic, to hold a camera to a T-bar grid, I-beam, column, etc. upside-down.

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I would stay away from magnets , because the digital media ( sd cards, chips in camera etc ) are not happy with magnetic stuff. Magnets tend to kill those things... so forget that idea.

You could use 750 pidgeons taped or screwed to walls, ceiling etc..or c-clamps with 750 stud to I beams, lots of stuff to use..with a gobo head and a PIN in head with thread on end to attach your camera ( can use thread adapters to go from 3/8 to 1/4 or 5/16 etc as needed ).. so anyway, however you attach doesnt matter but no magnets.

Turning cameras ( dutch angles, or vertical ) is common. With green screens of "people" its very common to turn camera vertical to get the MOST resolution for post work... and when that post work is DONE the result is put back into the horizontal frame for export. Here is sample of what I mean ...

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?79720-Shooting-vertically-more-resolution-in-p ost

You can see that the person FITS into frame better with vertical frame ( camera turned sideways )..so for post work you get more resolution to do that work. THEN when done with that you have to put that into a horizontal frame for export and final product....cause thats how we watch movies.

Cameras dont care how you turn them etc.. so the fact of " generational " loss etc is up to your editing program and how it handles the data and export etc.. has nothing to do with what 'angle' you shoot at etc. Of course, if you go to horizontal from vertical like with sample above, you are "reducing" the image of the person to fit the horizontal frame in the end product...so you don't lose anything except the size of person.. and again, all this boils down to what your editing software can do regarding exports in general.  So, no , you don't lose anything going upside down, cause who cares ? Not the camera.

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Shielding wasn't so good those days and those liquid helium cooled, near superconducting magnets could wipe out your credit cards from dozens of yards away.

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Wow, that stuff is so cool ! About 1986 approx. I got a tour of that giant superconductor magnet at MIT and we had to get all metal stuff off us before going into the room. Guide pointed to a big I beam up above us that had a huge dent in it, from when a magnet thing reversed polarity unexpectedly and the whole unit flew up in the air ( ripped out of its cement floor anchors ! ) and crashed into the I beam !  Holy Smokes !  Wow !

Sorry I can't mark two answers as correct but I think Steven answered what I needed first.

Humph....

If the question was..

My question is would rotating the final footage cause any degredation of the video?

 

That's what I'd like an answer for.

Answer 6 and 9 came before 10

Sulking.....

Hey! I need to get to that second + by my name! I'll take all the points I can get.