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1. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
therealdobro Jul 11, 2012 10:07 PM (in response to ryan_uwl)Not sure if I understand what you're trying to do, but when you import stuff into a session in CS6, the way to get it included in the session folder is File>Export. If I'm not mistaken, using Save or Save As saves the session information only, and leaves the imported files wherever they were before you imported them.
Where can you learn this stuff? Well, here for instance - this forum is really good. I think there's a third party CS6 training video too - I think it costs about $80 or something. There's stuff on lynda.com too. And of course helpx.adobe.com/audition/topics is the standard intro to all things Audition. Two are free, two cost. You choose.
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2. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
SuiteSpot Jul 11, 2012 11:54 PM (in response to ryan_uwl)I assume you are refering to an Audition 'project' (actually referred to as a 'session') and not importing a 'project' from Premiere.
So if that is correct then the way to do that is to switch to the Multitrack view (rather than the Edit View)
Press the number "0" for MT and "9" for Edit (or use the menu)
In MT view you can import or record your audio and then save it as a session/project to work on again later
If I have misunderstood then let me know
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3. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
Ron_Day Jul 13, 2012 9:45 AM (in response to ryan_uwl)Hey Ryan,
I think a new feature we added in Audition CS6 should help you with this workflow. While Audition does not support an official project format at this time, we do have a way to ensure that any files open when a session is saved will be retained when the session is re-opened.
Go to Preferences > Multitrack and enable the option for "Reference all open audio and video files when saving sessions".
Normally when you save a session (.sesx file), we only retain references to the files you actually added to the multitrack enviornment (this has been the case for all previous versions of Audition and Cool Edit in the past).
With this new option turned on, we will also retain references to ANY audio or video file you have open in the Files panel - even if you have not added it to the multitrack yet.
I hope that helps!
--Ron
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4. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
DaftlyPunkish Feb 28, 2013 7:16 AM (in response to Ron_Day)I recorded a voiceover and I'm pretty sure I lost all of it. It wasn't that much but it was a good deal of work. I hit command S to save the project and when I re-opened the project all of the audio clips were gone. I thought saving the project would include the audio files. Is this not the case?
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5. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
ryclark Feb 28, 2013 9:22 AM (in response to DaftlyPunkish)Were you working in Waveform view or Multitrack view? In Multitrack the audio files are saved as you record them into the project session folder which Audition asks you for when you start a new project. It is slightly different in Waveform view where the audio is only stored as a temporary file until you do a Save file or preferably Save As when it will ask you for a file name.
There is no way that you can close an Audition session without it asking you to save unsaved or altered files. If you have saved them previously and they aren't altered then Audition won't ask again. So your .wav audio files must be somewhere on one of your drives.
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6. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
MMCC Forensic May 8, 2014 10:45 AM (in response to ryan_uwl)This does not suffice. It saves the Multitrack session data, but what we and I’m pretty sure many others need is the ability to save a project involving a single audio file and the current status of any and all non-destructive actions (Effects Rack, just for starters) performed on it.
Apple’s SoundTrack Pro has been able to do this since Day One (.stap files, SoundTrack Audio Project). Heck, even the freeware open-source Audacity can do it (.aup, Audacity Audio Project)!
After six major versions under the name “Audition” and Adobe’s ownership, not to mention its days as Cool Edit Pro, why the heck can Audition not do such an extremely basic thing, even in the latest Auditon CC!? Please add this. I recommend “.aap” (Audition Audio Project) or “.aaap” (Adobe Audition Audio Project) to avoid conflicts with Audacity.
To add some more functionality that Apple’s Final Cut Studio has had all along, such .aaap files should also be able to be imported directly as clips into a Premiere Pro timeline. When rendering, Premiere Pro would call on Audition in the background (without launching the user interface if Audition is closed at the time) to actually render the audio in its current state. This way, if the project file is further edited (including non-destructive effects parameters, ordering, enabling / disabling, etc.) then the .aaap is re-saved without having to export any audio, then the Premiere Pro timelines that reference it will automatically be updated as well the next time they render (and those clips would be flagged as needing rendering). This is a very efficient workflow.
Frankly, the lack of this should be considered a showstopper for the use of Adobe software in any kind of A/V production. The fact that it went this long without being done gives me reason to question the use of Adobe software at all, with the possible exception of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Acrobat. It tells me that at least some of your development teams just aren’t thinking right.
In fact, speaking of those more basic apps, imagine if there were no .psd/.psb or .ai or .indd file formats. Imagine if you could only save from Photoshop to .png or .jpg or .tiff or whatever, or from Illustrator to .wmf/emf or .pct (PICT) or .dwg or even .eps (without saving AI editing data) or whatever, or from InDesign to .pdf or other prepress formats. Imagine if you could not keep your Smart Layers and Smart Filter settings in Photoshop files, etc. This is basically the situation that Audition has been in for six major versions now (again, not to mention its Cool Edit Pro days).
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7. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
SteveG(AudioMasters) May 8, 2014 12:11 PM (in response to MMCC Forensic)MMCC Forensic wrote:
This does not suffice. It saves the Multitrack session data, but what we and I’m pretty sure many others need is the ability to save a project involving a single audio file and the current status of any and all non-destructive actions (Effects Rack, just for starters) performed on it.
Work done in Waveform view is essentially destructive, so I don't understand what you're on about at all. If you want to save the contents and settings of the effects rack, save them as a preset.
If you want to do a non-destructive project using a single file, then use Multitrack. That's the way it's designed. Multitrack is non-destructive, Waveform is destructive.
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8. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
Bob Howes May 9, 2014 12:00 AM (in response to MMCC Forensic)Like Steve, I'm not sure quite what you're having problems with but wonder if you have a misconception.
Just because it's called Multitrack, it doesn't mean you can't have a project (except it's called a session, .sesx file extension) with only a single track in it. Once you save the session you have all the various settings for effects, levels, etc. etc. saved in the one spot and...if you've clicked the option...it automatically saves your source audio along with the session too.
Or, if there's a reason you MUST work in Waveform mode and do destructive edits then simply using "Save As" and adding a version number to your file would do it as well--though I can't see why you'd work this way.
Are we missing something in your work flow?
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9. Re: I don't get it? Why can't you save Project Files in Audition?
mapsnmad Nov 4, 2014 1:08 PM (in response to ryan_uwl)That helps. Thanks.
I'm adding my voice to those calling for some kind of project file format. It would just be convenient. The project file should save bins (folders) that I've sorted my files into. It should let me save an Effects Rack before applying it, so I can make changes tomorrow and re-export a different mix.
That said, I'm getting a lot done this week in Audition and I'm really loving the selection tools and the ability to edit sound in the spectral view. Great for removing noises.



