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Generated Help displaying all browser features

New Here ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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When I preview the .skn, it displays only the Help contents within the window. But the generated Help file appears in a browser window with all fo the usual browser window features: URL field, menus, Favorite bookmarks, etc.

I am expecting/wanting this:

skin.png
am getting this:

help_in_browser.png

What settings am I missing or have set wrong?

Thanks!!

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Community Expert ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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Looks like you're generating WebHelp - WebHelp will open in your default broswer. Maybe you're looking for the old-fashioned Compiled HTML Help (i.e. a .CHM)? If so, just change your SSL recipe to use it with your skin choice.

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LEGEND ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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Hi there

As Jeff said, WebHelp simply presents in the browser. You don't see all the browser "chrome" when you are viewing the skin because you aren't viewing it from inside a browser.

Another side effect is that the skin shows nearly every conceivable option you may enable, while in actual use there are things that may not be shown and present because of the different settings you have enabled.

Unfortunately Skinning isn't directly possible with a CHM file, so it's not as simple as telling RoboHelp to compile a CHM and use this skin. It's a multiple step process and you will need RoboHelp version 10 to do it. I'm not seeing where we know yet what version you are using and my crystal ball is broken.

One way to achieve the browser window you are looking for is by opening the help using the WebHelp API. But that is up to your developer to do.

Cheers... Rick

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New Here ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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Ah. Thank you for the reply! We just got upgraded to RH10 HTML. I had given up figuring this out on RH8, so I thought I’d see if there was a solution in 10. Maybe there is? I had inherited the RH projects and hadn’t consider trying a different layout. I thought there maybe was an option – perhaps not perfectly named – that I had set incorrectly.

That multi-step process for compiling a CHM and then using my preferred skin – do you have the steps handy, Rick? ☺

Well, before I go down that road, I guess I should ask: is HTML Help the preferred layout or is WebHelp? We are simply generating the Help window from a desktop application.

Thank you!

Barry

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LEGEND ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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Hi Barry

Unfortunately the answer to your question is to ask another question.

How long is a piece of string?

And the answer to that, of course, is that it depends on the string, no?

Likewise, the help output you deliver will depend on many factors. But generally speaking, the main deciding factor is where the help will live when the user needs it. Is it something that supports an application? If so, where does the application reside? Is it web based and delivered across the Internet? If so, WebHelp is a strong candidate. But if your application is installed like RoboHelp is, where it gets installed to each end user's PC, CHM is likely the best way to go.

To skin a CHM, generate WebHelp with the desired skin. Then click View > Pods > Script Explorer to open the Script Explorer pod. From there, expand the Sample Scripts folder. Now run the WebHelp to CHM converter script.

Cheers... Rick

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New Here ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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It’s almost quitting time, but I played around with the script you suggested and that worked pretty well. Thank you SO much, Rick! Have a great weekend.

Barry

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Community Expert ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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If you really want some sexy-looking help - try playing around with locally-installed AIRHelp or Multiscreen HTML5 ;>)

That'll put you in the 21st century!

added ultra-sexy Multiscreen HTML5 option

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LEGEND ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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AIR help may be "21st century", but I wouldn't hedge my bets on it. I think Adobe has abandoned further development of it as a viable solution.

There is much to be said about tried and true technologies.

Cheers... Rick

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Then you gotta go with the ultra-sexy Multiscreen HTML5 ;>)

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LEGEND ,
May 03, 2013 May 03, 2013

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LOL, Jeff, you really must stop reading only the sales material!

HTML 5 has its own quirks. I'm not saying it's bad, but hopefully the quirks will be smoothed out in the next version or three.

Don't believe me? Try coaxing it to look exactly as you want with a corporate prescribed color scheme and you will quickly see what I mean. But I'm sure it will come around.

Cheers... Rick

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LEGEND ,
May 06, 2013 May 06, 2013

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No quircks, you should just hire an expert Rick, it'll all work out then

Greet,

Willam

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May 15, 2013 May 15, 2013

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Thanks for the input, fellas. Successfully converting the WebHelp to .chm to produce the Help windows I want.

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