How to export HD 1080x1920, h264, without getting 500mb files?

[HarryBT]

hello everybody,

i am on premiere pro cs 5, mac osx.
i have recorded material with my hd camera (gopro hero3 black) in 1080 25fps.
after editing it in pp, i wanted to export the work (film is about 2 min long).
i want to export it in 1920x 1080 in h.264 format. i heard, thats he way to go..

when in export settings in pr pro, i choose:

format: h.264
preset: HDTV 1080p 25 high quality.
audio format/codec: aac

the summary tells me,
output will be 1920x1080,
estimated file size 532 mb!
that is too big for a 2 min film!

SO HERE IS THE QUESTION:
what settings do i need to choose to export in 1920x1080 hd
and still get the desired hd-look
AND reasonable file size, f.e. for youtube or other web platforms ?

*** i downloaded several "similar" films from youtube and other sources to compare,
they have somehing like:

size: 1920x1080
codecs: AAC, H.264
2 channels
bitrate: 2.650
film lengh: 04:12 min

size: 80mb

i thought about maybe lowering the bit rate would be the solution, but i cannot find an option to do so.. (and it is just a guess..)

the next "lower quality" / smaller preset would be

format: h.264

preset: HDTV 720p 25 high quality.
estimated file size 102mb ...

... which is still much bigger than the downloaded  example -  but  therefore only in 720p...

i have gone through all available presets in my pp cs5,
none of them fits what i believe needs to be chosen
to get 1920x1080 hd quality with reasonable file size..

what am i doing wrong??
helpful answers are very appreciated...!

thank you, community, 
harry

[joe_bloe_premiere]

Try using the H.264 YouTube Preset.

[HarryBT]

hi joe,
thanks for the superquick reply!
if i had those presets, i would of course have tried that one 😉
but somehow i do not have all the presets shown in your list,
my list looks like this:

"my" yt widescreen-preset  is
1280x720 only (as described before..)
and obviously only available in ntsc - i am in europe, need to go with PAL..

can i make that by you mentioned
yt 1080 preset myself, and if so, how, changing what parameters..?
or can i download the "bigger preset-list" somewhere..?

THANKS AGAIN, Joe,
from Harry

[joe_bloe_premiere]

Sorry... my bad.

I posted a CS6 Encoder screenshot, you are on CS5.

can i make that by you mentioned
yt 1080 preset myself, and if so, how, changing what parameters..?

Try using the HDTV 1080p 25 High Quality preset,

then tweak your Bitrate Settings to reduce file size.

.

It will be a 'balancing act' between file size vs. quality reduction.

[HarryBT]

aah, allright, joe,
now i am  getting it..
it's a version-issue..
i have just reduced the bitrate down to around 6 bit (i read somewhere, that's a good reduction, just did not find it before, dummy, ..),
now the outcome file is 110mb in size.. quality is still ok..,
kind of has the "hd-look",
so that is my way to fly for now..
thanks, man..

so, the only way to get those presets is having cs6?
does that mean, all he people who are publishing on yt etc are either doing something like
"the bit rate reduction-compromise", or they own cs6 (or comparable new product..?

thank you very much for your patience,
i am just beginning to dig into stuff here..  🙂

cheers,
harry

[joe_bloe_premiere]

so, the only way to get those presets is having cs6?

Yep.

does that mean, all he people who are publishing on yt etc are either doing something like
"the bit rate reduction-compromise", or they own cs6 (or comparable new product..?

Yep.

Either that, or they are encoding 1280x720, or they are

not concerned with the resilting filesize.

[HarryBT]

cheers, mate!
everything understood! problem solved. awesome!
i am afraid, that was not my last question post -
but thanks for beeing so quick,  friendly and competent..
'til next time then, 
harry

[esaliano]

Just for update and there isnt any good way to solve this High Q / big size - Reduced quality / normal size problem with premiere’s export settings As this post appears to be first page on google searches.

Only thing i found useful for the dedicated size 1920x1080 is, after exporting in high quality file: use some external program for reducing size (i usually change it to avi files instead mp4s

that way without losing the export 1920x1080 and very small loss quality (you cant see the difference) and get 1/5 or 1/8 reduced size for upload.