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      • 440. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
        RWSP Community Member

        I'd agree.  With 7.2 and earlier problem seems to be one-time Bridge extractions, but not regenerating and replacing cache files. The Bridge problem with 7.3 and later is repeated regens where (at least in some tests) cache files are regenerated and replaced.

        • 441. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
          ycardozo Community Member

          Robert,

          Back in 2011 on another forum you gave instructions on how to turn off preview extractions. In this, you said "click the 'browse quickly by preferring imbedded images' square in the application bar." I've looked all over that top bar and can't find anything like this. Was this for a much earlier version of Bridge that no longer exists? If not, where is the application bar. And if one does this, do you no longer see the thumbnail images at all in the program. I'm not even sure I know what all this refers to.  Or was this perhaps how someone in a much older version of Bridge changed from creating metadata sidecar files to using a database??? Maybe this would be a workaround. I am grasping at straws here but it's a thought

           

          I am copying the conversation here:

           

          Jul 21, 2011 7:36 AM   in reply to cwcsdc

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          Click the "Browse quickly by preferring embedded images" square in the Application Bar (it toggles on and off) or check "Prefer Embedded (Faster)" in the "Options for thumbnail quality and preview generation" pulldown.

           

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          Jul 21, 2011 5:00 AM

          [Unable to display image]I had a collection of just under 500 photos, mostly raw and dng.  I selected them all with the intent of updating the metadata.  Bridge started creating preview extractions, and I had to wait, and wait, and wait for my metadatadaa updates to take effect.  I wasn't ready to look at the images, I just wanted to update the metadata.  Besides, I don't need previews for the 200+ raw files, only the dng, psd, and jpegs.  Is there a way to temporarily turn off preview extractions?

           

          • 442. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
            Curt Y Community Member

            You can use embedded by clicking the 2nd icon on the second line of the toolbar.  (embedded, High quality on demend, always high quality).

            • 443. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
              RWSP Community Member

              ycardozo wrote:

               

              Robert,

              Back in 2011 on another forum you gave instructions on how to turn off preview extractions. In this, you said "click the 'browse quickly by preferring imbedded images' square in the application bar." I've looked all over that top bar and can't find anything like this. Was this for a much earlier version of Bridge that no longer exists? If not, where is the application bar. And if one does this, do you no longer see the thumbnail images at all in the program. ...

              "Prefer Embedded (Faster)" will cause Bridge use the low-resolution thumbnails embedded in the source (raw) files for its content display (shows only the thumb in the raw file, no acr or other edits.  Here's the usual place to find that choice -- upper right of the Bridge window.:

               

              bridge2.jpg

              • 444. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                ycardozo Community Member

                I would have never looked there. Thank you for the screenshot. It sounds like if this was checked, you wouldn't be able to see metadata when you hover over the thumbnail image in what I think folks call the filmstrip. Maybe not a good thing for my workflow. Oh well. Anyway, I will not change a thing until I have a chance to download CC on the weekend. Meanwhile, it's good to know the option.

                • 445. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                  ycardozo Community Member

                  On my computer, both 'always high quality' and 'generate 100% previews' are checked. That must be the default since I didn't change anything. What happens if I just keep it on 'always high quality' like in the screen shot?  Or even 'high quality on demand?'

                   

                  bridge2.jpg

                  • 446. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                    RWSP Community Member

                    No one-size-fits-all answer here.  Can't recommend without knowing your workflow.  Keeping 'always high quality' usually is a good choice -- gives you current view of acr edits et al.  Generate 100% previews takes a lot of system resource to generate first time in -- uses more disk space and slows initial browsing.  Might not be worth the system overhead unless you zoom in to or use loupe or slide shows on a lot of previews.

                    • 447. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                      Curt Y Community Member

                      ycardozo wrote:

                       

                      I would have never looked there. Thank you for the screenshot. It sounds like if this was checked, you wouldn't be able to see metadata when you hover over the thumbnail image in what I think folks call the filmstrip.

                      I always use embedded, and do not generate 100% previews.  In filmstrip mode I see metadata when I hover over thumbnail.  Win 7 OS.

                      • 448. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                        ycardozo Community Member

                        Robert Shomler wrote:

                         

                        No one-size-fits-all answer here.  Can't recommend without knowing your workflow.  Keeping 'always high quality' usually is a good choice -- gives you current view of acr edits et al.  Generate 100% previews takes a lot of system resource to generate first time in -- uses more disk space and slows initial browsing.  Might not be worth the system overhead unless you zoom in to or use loupe or slide shows on a lot of previews.

                        well, I have unchecked 'generate 100% previews' and it seems to make absolutely no difference in how I work. I can still go to a full size image by hitting the spacebar and then to a 100% zoom of the image if I click within that full size. I can also get a smaller 100% preview box (I think that's what you were referring to a 'loupe' if I click on the image in the preview pane. So I have absolutely no idea what advantage 'generate 100% previews' gives someone. It is not the default on Photoshop CC but I am guessing it may have been the default in earlier versions since I sure didn't change it. Boy, this is useful no matter what. It's one less thing for my computer to grind through. Thks so much. Like I said, this is a truly fantastic forum. So what exactly do you get by clicking 'generate 100%previews' other than a lot of waiting.

                        • 449. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                          Curt Y Community Member

                          I believe if you have "generate 100% previews", and "save 100% previews to cache" it saves time if you are repeadily using the same images at 100%.  I never do and it can eat up a lot of disk space.  So that is why your workflow is important on how you set up thumbnails and cache.

                          • 450. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                            RWSP Community Member

                            ycardozo wrote:


                            . So what exactly do you get by clicking 'generate 100%previews' other than a lot of waiting.

                            The 100% views come up a lot faster when pre-generated.  It's a tradeoff: pay the performance to generate them in advance, or wait one by one for them to be generated when you zoom in or otherwise call for a 100% view.  (Another way of saying what Curt Y wrote.)

                            • 451. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                              Yammer Community Member

                              Robert Shomler wrote:

                               

                              I'd agree.  With 7.2 and earlier problem seems to be one-time Bridge extractions, but not regenerating and replacing cache files. The Bridge problem with 7.3 and later is repeated regens where (at least in some tests) cache files are regenerated and replaced.

                              I think I looked at the cache several times before and decided that no new cache files were being created, despite Bridge's words to the opposite effect.

                               

                              I also discovered a while back that the timestamps (I can't remember the details, but I wrote in this thread) on the cache files weren't actually current, nor were they the same as the EXIFs. This is why I said that I don't think it's relevant if they weren't updated, and Bridge is clearly busy doing something, even if it doesn't seem to produce anything as a result.

                               

                              Maybe it is overwriting cache files but with the old date somehow. I wouldn't have thought it possible, but what do I know.

                              • 452. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                Omke Oudeman Community Member

                                well, I have unchecked 'generate 100% previews' and it seems to make absolutely no difference in how I work. I can still go to a full size image by hitting the spacebar and then to a 100% zoom of the image if I click within that full size.

                                 

                                That is expected behavior, the new settings are only applied to newly added files. The already build 100% previews are still available on your system, stored in the Bridge Cache folder called full, should be quite a large file on your systems by the looks of it

                                 

                                 

                                I can also get a smaller 100% preview box (I think that's what you were referring to a 'loupe' if I click on the image in the preview pane.

                                 

                                In Bridge you can set the pref to add a command key to click for using the loupe. Can be useful if you want to click on a file to select it when having multiple files in the preview window (up to 9 is the max). The loupe is useful but when you don't have 100 % preview set to always you need to wait a little while for it to build.

                                 

                                By default the loupe shows 100 %, with the scroll wheel or the + and - keys you can set it also to 200, 400 and 800 % enlargement

                                 

                                 

                                So I have absolutely no idea what advantage 'generate 100% previews' gives someone.

                                 

                                Like Robert explained perfectly, this is depending on you needs for a good workflow. Personally I have a lot of files and add more and more every day. Never need the always setting but occasionally need to examine close. either with loupe or full screen wit mouse click to get 100 %. It takes a short while but that is far more economical for me then having Bridge generate all files, this takes a lot of time and a lot of space.

                                 

                                But I have set previews to 'always HQ' which btw is the default setting. I know Curt likes the 'prefer embedded' setting but I only use this setting when I need a quick glance on an archived CD / DVD or an old non cached folder with large content. When you only need to look for the series of files to pick this is a useful settings because it does take less before being able to the content. But when having found what I needed I copy it to my work folders and let it build HQ for the correct content and judgement and when it gets critical I use 100% on demand.

                                 

                                So many users, so many workflows...

                                 

                                 

                                It is not the default on Photoshop CC but I am guessing it may have been the default in earlier versions since I sure didn't change it.

                                 

                                No, it has never been the default, you must have set it your self one way or another and it is a Bridge setting not a PS setting

                                • 453. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                  ycardozo Community Member

                                  This is all intriguing. When I am on my main computer later, I will create an entirely new folder of test images and see if I can notice much difference. Thanks for explaining it all. I truly wonder how my setting got changed. I never even knew there was a choice and would not have known how to do it if that screenshot hadn't been provided. Even if I had somehow clicked on that icon, I wouldn't have entirely understood what it was referring to and I learned a long time ago if you don't understand, don't change anything. Truly interesting.

                                  • 454. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                    ycardozo Community Member

                                    btw, you mention the bridge cache folder. Where, again, would I find this? Now I'm curious about exactly how large it might be. There is an option to export the cache but I don't do that. Or does that refer to something else entirely?

                                     

                                    The comment from above:

                                    "The already build 100% previews are still available on your system, stored in the Bridge Cache folder called full, should be quite a large file on your systems by the looks of it"

                                    • 455. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                      RWSP Community Member

                                      In win7:

                                       

                                      \Users\[user-name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS6\Cache

                                      • 456. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                        ycardozo Community Member

                                        Robert Shomler wrote:

                                         

                                        In win7:

                                         

                                        \Users\[user-name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS6\Cache

                                        thks. i will check this when i get bk to my main computer. and i am downloading cc tonight. i'll let all of you know the results.

                                        • 457. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                          Omke Oudeman Community Member

                                          I learned a long time ago if you don't understand, don't change anything. Truly interesting.

                                           

                                           

                                          How about this one: change everything to learn as much as possible, that would be truly interesting…

                                          • 458. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                            ycardozo Community Member

                                            ycardozo wrote:

                                             

                                            btw, you mention the bridge cache folder. Where, again, would I find this? Now I'm curious about exactly how large it might be. There is an option to export the cache but I don't do that. Or does that refer to something else entirely?

                                             

                                            The comment from above:

                                            "The already build 100% previews are still available on your system, stored in the Bridge Cache folder called full, should be quite a large file on your systems by the looks of it"

                                            yes, indeed, it is. 76 gb

                                            • 459. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                              ycardozo Community Member

                                              Interesting. Terrifying. And often catastrophic for me. Back when I had CS5 on both my desktop and laptop, I experimented with the laptop, which I dubbed my sacrificial lamb. But it has only 1GB of RAM, which isn't enough to run CS6. I wonder if running CS6 using the cloud version would make a difference. Hmmm....

                                              Omke Oudeman wrote:

                                               

                                              I learned a long time ago if you don't understand, don't change anything. Truly interesting.

                                               

                                               

                                              How about this one: change everything to learn as much as possible, that would be truly interesting…

                                              • 460. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                ycardozo Community Member

                                                ycardozo wrote:

                                                 

                                                This is all intriguing. When I am on my main computer later, I will create an entirely new folder of test images and see if I can notice much difference. Thanks for explaining it all. I truly wonder how my setting got changed. I never even knew there was a choice and would not have known how to do it if that screenshot hadn't been provided. Even if I had somehow clicked on that icon, I wouldn't have entirely understood what it was referring to and I learned a long time ago if you don't understand, don't change anything. Truly interesting.

                                                I created a test folder and beyond a moment when the image is blurry, there is no difference in performance. In other words, I hit the spacebar to bring up a full view and for half a second, the image is not sharp. Then it is. I have a pretty powerful system so I think that is why this is not a problem for my workflow. Meanwhile, it will take far less time for me to thumbnail images in Bridge.

                                                • 461. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                  ycardozo Community Member

                                                  For those out there who have recreated the regeneration problem, I have a question: What camera are you using. I am using Canon 7D and G11. Has anyone recreated this with a Nikon raw image? I think someone said they had recreated it with a Sony camera but I'm not sure. And I think someone did the same with a DNG, which is interesting since that is supposed to be a digital negative. But if that DNG was from a Canon raw file, would that make a difference?

                                                  • 462. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                    Yammer Community Member

                                                    Nikon and Panasonic here.

                                                    • 463. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                      ycardozo Community Member

                                                      well, that killed my theory that it is somehow tied to a specific camera.

                                                      • 464. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                        Omke Oudeman Community Member

                                                        But it has only 1GB of RAM, which isn't enough to run CS6. I wonder if running CS6 using the cloud version would make a difference. Hmmm....

                                                         

                                                        Minimum requirement is still 1 GB RAM and 512 MB VRAM but don't expect miracles regarding performance. RAM is very very cheap nowadays, you will benefit much from at least 8 GB RAM but 4 is for me the minimum. (I have 32 GB RAM in my MacPro and that kicks performance…)

                                                        • 465. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                          ycardozo Community Member

                                                          turns out I was wrong. I have 4 gb of ram on the laptop but apparently a glacial processor. this is an old laptop, actually a netbook/notebook hybrid. It is running windows 7 and photoshop cs5...barely.

                                                          • 466. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                            ycardozo Community Member

                                                            Meanwhile,  here is something to add to the confusion. I sent a DVD to a friend with two folders: one had 25 raw images (CR2) without any metadata or .xmp file. The other folder had 16 images with my own .xmp files. When she created an .xmp file on her computer (also Windows 7 and CS6 but updated to Raw 7.3) for the 'virgin' raw images, there was no continual regeneration. BUT when she opened the folder with my canon raw images with my .xmp files, all of them regenerated once. But it would do this again if she left the folder. And again. And again. On my computer, it would regenerate all, then part, then part again, regenerating a successively smaller number but start the process all over again the minute I left that folder. On her computer, it regenerates all of them, but then stops. The difference is it does the total regeneration (though only once) EVERY time she opens that folder. When she opens a folder with the images containing images that she created .xmp files for, the regeneration happens only that first time.

                                                             

                                                            I hope that is clear to you all because I'm not sure I am totally coherent at this point.

                                                             

                                                            Further adding to the mystery was a call back I got from Adobe technical support in India at 6am my time. After getting the 16 lb cat off my neck and coming to some wakefulness, I had a long talk with this person who first said it was the first time the adobe tech dept had ever heard of the problem. When I directed her to the adobe forum and mentioned that people who work for adobe had taken sporadic part, she was puzzled and asked me if I had ever filled out a bug report...something I had never heard of.  So I have done that. It is a somewhat complicated process. I am curious to see what happens here. Meanwhile, I still haven't had a chance to download CC but, hopefully, things will calm down here long enough for me to do this.

                                                             

                                                            Also, if it's a help, here is a link to the bug report site that the adobe tech department told me to use:

                                                             

                                                            https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

                                                             

                                                            the subject titled I used was:

                                                            Bridge Continuous Regeneration (Extraction) Bug

                                                             

                                                            I wonder if it would help if those on this forum who have replicated the problem could go to that site (you have to sign in) and add to the report...there is a place at the bottom where they ask people who also have the problem to click. It just adds a number to a total, not your name.

                                                            • 467. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                              Yammer Community Member

                                                              ycardozo wrote:

                                                               

                                                              I had a long talk with this person who first said it was the first time the adobe tech dept had ever heard of the problem. When I directed her to the adobe forum and mentioned that people who work for adobe had taken sporadic part, she was puzzled and asked me if I had ever filled out a bug report...something I had never heard of.  So I have done that. It is a somewhat complicated process. I am curious to see what happens here. Meanwhile, I still haven't had a chance to download CC but, hopefully, things will calm down here long enough for me to do this.

                                                               

                                                              Also, if it's a help, here is a link to the bug report site that the adobe tech department told me to use:

                                                               

                                                              https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

                                                               

                                                              the subject titled I used was:

                                                              Bridge Continuous Regeneration (Extraction) Bug

                                                               

                                                              I wonder if it would help if those on this forum who have replicated the problem could go to that site (you have to sign in) and add to the report...there is a place at the bottom where they ask people who also have the problem to click. It just adds a number to a total, not your name.

                                                              So you don't think Adobe employee Brett N is telling the truth when he says: "this has been addressed by the engineering team."? Or do you think maybe "addressed" means that someone wrote it down?

                                                               

                                                              http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/unneccesary_bridge_thumbnail_and_pre view_extraction

                                                              • 468. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                ycardozo Community Member

                                                                fascinating. I think...hope... adobe is finally on the issue. what is additionally puzzling is what happened with the test images I sent to my friend. the regenerating didn't happen with my raw images images she had created .xmp files for but did with the ones using .xmp files I had created.

                                                                • 469. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                  ycardozo Community Member

                                                                  I wonder if the exchange on this link happened after my posting of issues and discussion with the tech person in India.

                                                                  • 470. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                    Curt Y Community Member

                                                                    I would not be too excited about discussion with Adobe tech person.  I had some converstaions with a Bridge Engineer and she said she would get right on the issue after the Chineese New Year's holiday is over.  And that was this year not next.  Exchanged a few messages but have not heard anything back recently,  although I have not sent a message since mid March.

                                                                     

                                                                    The "have never heard of problem" is just another way of saying problems are not entered into a searchable database, and everyone is on their own program.

                                                                    • 471. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                      ycardozo Community Member

                                                                      Yammer & Curt,

                                                                      I just realized the forum link from feedbackphotoshop.com is Yammer's posting from A YEAR AGO, not my posting from this morning. Double yikes. I don't, honestly know what to say at this point except that I decided to put off the CC  upgrade (sigh, once again) until at least tomorrow. And I just tried to open the link Yammer posted and somehow, it no longer works on any of my browsers. this is the link:

                                                                      http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/unneccesary_brid ge_thumbnail_and_preview_extraction

                                                                      • 472. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                        ycardozo Community Member

                                                                        well, it works here but because there's a gap in the word 'bridge' just before 'thumbnail,' it didn't work on my browsers until i closed up the gap:

                                                                         

                                                                        http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/unneccesary_bridge_thumbnail_and_pre view_extraction

                                                                        • 473. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                          Hudechrome Community Member

                                                                          Ok, I give up. You people see it. Adobe sees it. I don't.

                                                                           

                                                                          What gives? What do I have to do to make it do the same thing?

                                                                           

                                                                          I just reset Bridge to generate 100% previews after unchecking that item and purging the files. Next I reset 100% previews, and yep, regenerating started. But it said "generating 100% ", something like that, which is: duh!

                                                                           

                                                                          Going back to that file does not regenerate anything.

                                                                           

                                                                          So tell me what I am doning/not doing to avoid this problem. Seems to me since I have the "perfect" machine (hah!) I should be able to infect it with some sort of action on my part which is a legit action. Now that should be reproduceable.

                                                                          • 474. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                            ycardozo Community Member

                                                                            From my experience with my friend, I am starting to believe it is something either within an individual's Bridge program or perhaps their computer.  She is able to recreate the problem using raw images where I created the .xmp file. When she created her own .xmp files for 'virgin' raw images (mine, not hers) the problem did not happen. In other words, she now has a folder (with her own .xmp files for my images) where the problem does NOT occur and another (with my .xmp files for my images) where the problem DOES occur.

                                                                             

                                                                            This is perhaps another piece for the puzzle.

                                                                            • 475. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                              Omke Oudeman Community Member

                                                                              the regenerating didn't happen with my raw images images she had created .xmp files for but did with the ones using .xmp files I had created.

                                                                               

                                                                              Your xmp data is user specific, at least if you have customized this, but at least version specific. If your friend has other settings or other version trying to read the xmp files generated on your system this might cause confusion. (but this is more guessing on my behalf, I always use DNG and both XMP and DNG are universal to read)

                                                                              • 476. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                                Yammer Community Member

                                                                                Hudechrome wrote:

                                                                                 

                                                                                What gives? What do I have to do to make it do the same thing?

                                                                                Try this:

                                                                                 

                                                                                Pick a folder of Raw files, with or without settings. Select all and open in Camera Raw. I just picked 121 from yesterday.

                                                                                Select all images in filmstrip.

                                                                                Switch to the Lens Corrections panel (Ctrl-Alt-6) and enable auto Lens profile corrections (if it isn't already).

                                                                                Switch to the Transform panel and Rotate. I did 3 degrees clockwise.

                                                                                Select the Crop tool (C), and crop the maximum area possible.

                                                                                Select Done, and wait for Bridge to regenerate the thumbnails.

                                                                                Switch away from Bridge, and back to Bridge. Does the extractions message reappear?

                                                                                 

                                                                                In my case, there was a exact correleation between the number of repeat extractions and the number of landscape orientation images, 87.

                                                                                 

                                                                                It's likely that you may get different results, as the maths will be different for different camera sensor sizes and lens geometry, so you might need 2 or 3 attempts.

                                                                                • 477. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                                  Omke Oudeman Community Member

                                                                                  It's likely that you may get different results, as the maths will be different for different camera sensor sizes and lens geometry, so you might need 2 or 3 attempts.

                                                                                   

                                                                                   

                                                                                  I never have noticed this problem until I repeated your test, and now I can confirm this result albeit it with different numbers.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  First of all I always use DNG and never use ACR to crop my files, hence the combination of rotate/crop together with Lens correction may indeed play its role in this problem.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  I tried 121 .CR2 files from my EOS 1Dx (18MP) with 79 landscape and 42 portrait. Every time I focussed on the content panel with this files always 31 of them started to regenerate.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Reopen in ACR and undo auto lens correction leeds to regenerate almost all thumbs and previews every time.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  I will try and investigate a bit further when having the time

                                                                                   

                                                                                  MacOSX 10.8.4 MacPro with more then enough resources, Bridge CC ACR 8.1

                                                                                  • 478. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                                    RWSP Community Member

                                                                                    ycardozo wrote:

                                                                                     

                                                                                    From my experience with my friend, I am starting to believe it is something either within an individual's Bridge program or perhaps their computer.  She is able to recreate the problem using raw images where I created the .xmp file. When she created her own .xmp files for 'virgin' raw images (mine, not hers) the problem did not happen. In other words, she now has a folder (with her own .xmp files for my images) where the problem does NOT occur and another (with my .xmp files for my images) where the problem DOES occur.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    This is perhaps another piece for the puzzle.

                                                                                    What if any additional metadata did she apply to her processing of your 'virgin' raw images (IPTC? anything in addition to acr edit)?  Seems like much of the discussion of multiple regens related to images with both acr edits and IPTC metadata (xmp or dng).

                                                                                    • 479. Re: Thumbnails continually rebuilding
                                                                                      ycardozo Community Member

                                                                                      I am not sure because her workflow is so different from mine and it took a while for me to explain how I work. She does all her metadata work in Photoshop on the final Tif files. I do all of mine in Bridge, along with corrections to the image using the raw palette. I know for the test, she did apply info using file/info in Bridge to my sample raw images, but did not use the metadata tab to do it as I do because she couldn't find the tab (she doesn't use it). She did apply some corrections to the image in raw. Whatever she did...those files did not regenerate.When she opened the folder with my metadata files, they did.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      ??????????

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Until Adobe engineers actually jump on this, I doubt we'll ever solve the problem. And from my experience yesterday, I doubt that will happen. The first person I spoke with in India some days ago who was supposed to be a photoshop specialist didn't know what a metadata file is. The second, who called me  yesterday at 6am, couldn't find any record of this problem EVER being reported. She told me to file a report on what I was led to believe is the official Adobe problem reporting site, which I did. I then discovered, through this forum (meaning this one, here, now), that the problem had not only been reported to the 'problem' forum, but acknowledged a year ago when an Adobe engineer said it was legitimate and would be worked on. Again, that was a year ago. This is beyond acceptable, truly. Meanwhile, I don't really know whether to even try CC at this point.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Has anyone else out there signed up for CC?