I do all of my titles in Ae.

I never touch Ai or Ps for titles.

Rod,

As PrPro can do many things, just like Photoshop can, it boils down to what you want to do, whether you will go to AE, or AI. If PrPro, or Ps can do what you want, then I would stick to it.

I will do a good many Titles in PrPro's Titler, but will then go to Ps, when things get intricate. Then, if I need more type-handling capabilities, on to AI.

Same with PrPro and AE. If PrPro gives me what I want and need, I use it. When the envelope gets pushed a bit more, I am off to AE.

Good luck,

Hunt

I do it because it seems generally cleaner, and there is more

lattitude for how you compose and present text in Ae over Pr.

Even if you aren't interested in "...special effects and particles and

all that junk", it makes things like this poster's question simple to do:

How do I make Text appear Line-by-Line?

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1272565?tstart=0

Pre-composing elements for text is intuitive and works great in Ae,

and there are lots of built-in text effects that can be customized:

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Also, I feel Premiere is good at editing, Ae is great for finishing.

Maybe it's a holdover from offline / online editing mindset.

I still do simple titles in Premiere Pro now and then. But the moment I even think about putting them in motion, I use After Effects.

It is so easy to give them a little 3D look, and the presets to animate text are really quite good. When you take the ability to move the light around, or manipulate the camera position to fly over the text, and the ability to easily create reflections... Ae is just better at titles.

Agreed.

Textured fills, bevels, 3D depth of field, motion elements w/motion blur,

etc., etc... all easier (and better) in Ae.

note:

Whew!

I figured it'd be months before you replied to one of my posts!

Steven does not hold a grudge. However, there WAS that time, when I stiffed him for the beers... don't think he's forgotten that one.

Hunt

Really? For pulling a prank?

Naw! No way.

Good... since it has been officially frowned upon!

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5580015#5580015

...there WAS that time, when I stiffed him for the beers....

I am reasonably certain i can afford to buy you beer. You will get your invite to our new home as soon as we settle in.

Your taste in wine might bankrupt me though.

Maybe we should start a new thread. When it is Beer-Thirty, what beer do we prefer?

... since it has been officially frowned upon!

i agree that there may have been a slight smile on his face when he wrote that post to scold you. Kind of like when your son breaks a window with a baseball, and you have to scold him, even though you are impressed that he was able to hit it that far.

As far as pranks go, it was extremely puzzling yet harmless. Therefore, a well done prank. Of course, I have no idea how I got all the way to 1106 (as of the time I write this). Maybe some of those tests by the Adobe folks are still being counted? Or some of yours?

That was your "restitution" from Post #57:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5579297#5579297

I marked 'em all back!

I can take 'em away again, but I fear the ninja.

Joe,

Hmm. Do you put fruit in it too?

If you like Corona, I suggest finding a place that sells Bohemia. It comes out of the same brewery as Tecate and Carta Blanca. Can't get it everywhere though.

When I was a beer salesman back in the 1970's, many retired Mexican Bantamweights had bars in Los Angeles. They would cut the top off of a Tecate can with a can opener, rub a lime on the edge, rub a little salt on it and drink it like a poor man's Margarita.

I prefer my beer without fruit.

I Gotz to have lime!

Our new place has a lemon tree. Maybe I can convince my wife to add a lime tree? Or I can just paint the yellow fruit green with food coloring.

The tree started out in a big pot but broke through. So there are shards of the original pot around the base of the tree, but it is in the ground without a doubt. I will be building a little box around the tree to fill with dirt and much in order to get rid of the broken pot.

In about 1973, I discovered Corona. Every afternoon, on our walk back to our hotel in Guadalajara, there was a merchant, who would set up about 3:30PM in the middle of one of the busiest intersections in that part of town. Mostly, his clients were drivers, heading in about six different directions, and he sold a six-pack of loose small bottles (7oz?), in a kind of think plastic bag with ice in it. IIRC, I paid about 60 pesos (old Peso) back then, for 6 small bottles. The caps were kind of "twist-off," but tough to unscrew. An opener would have been better. Each little bottle had an inset, formed into the base, that fit the caps perfectly. So, a driver could use one, like a wrench, to unscrew the cap on another. Now, that did mean that one should hold onto the next to last bottle, to use it to open the last one. We did not get limes, and I saw no one adding those - maybe once they got into really heavy traffic?

Got back to the US, and went looking for Corona. At that point in time, there was no distributor here. At some point in time, that changed, and I began seeing Corona in TX and CA. However, it did not taste quite the same. Fast forward a few more years, and suddenly I saw it everywhere, including on US TV. By then, the lime seems to have become ubiquitous, and remains so, to this day.

I have never warmed to the limes, or to lemons in a Hefeweizen. Now, I do like many of the "fruit" brews, like lambics, and Pyramid's Apricot Ale. That is, somehow, different.

All of that said, maybe we SHOULD start a Beer-Thirty - What's Your Choice? thread?

Hunt

The Gambrinus Company in San Antonio was the US distributor for years.

They popularized the ubiquitous lime in the bottle through their

'minimalist' style US campaign (I had a chance to cut two of them...

both were a single, continuous :30 take with sfx / and a super).

The distributor is now on the east coast somewhere (I think).

Thanks for that update. It did seem that Corona hit first around San Antonio. Back in those days, we hung out there for Fiesta Week, every couple of years. It was just a bit later that I also saw it in CA - probably San Diego, but could have been LA?

My wife is not into beers, but stil loves the Christmas Corona ad with the palm tree on the beach, which then lights up with Holiday lights, as the finale. That one has been around for a long time. Was that one of yours, or did that come from a later agency and maybe distributor?

Also, considering some of the "local" brews, like Lone Star, Pearl (didn't they buy JAX of New Orleans - one of the worst beers known to mankind?) and Shiner (though I do like their Bock), I can see where Corona would have been a hit, back then.

As several years passed, from those days and night in Guadalajara, not sure if the US Corona did taste different, or whether my memory was just flawed.

Hunt

I also see that Shiner now has many, many brews, that I have never tasted. Way back then, there was just Shiner and then the Bock, which was once seasonal. They seem to have come a very long way from being a very small brewery in Shiner, TX. Back then, I would say that their whole operation was smaller than most "micro-breweries" today. Thanks for that link.

Hunt

Here's that Christmas ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWCVj8VB4Q

Hunt

That's an old-timer!

Same distributor, same agency, different editor (didn't take much).

The link you posted has the new Chicago distributor's name on it now.

Hey... not east coast, but third coast.

And,

Shiner has now become very hip in Texas.

JAX Beer... Ack!

Joe,

Thanks for the updates.

Glad that Shiner is doing some things correctly. Way back when, they were a tiny operation, and it seemed that they had a cult following by maybe University of Texas students (?). The folk at the brewery were very nice, and accommodating, and I never shared that I did not like their regular beer, but did appreciate the Bock. I just said "Yum, and thank you." Stil, very nice people - way to go!

As for JAX, there is not much to say. New Orleans probably produced the worst beers in all of the US: JAX, Dixie 45, Falstaff and Regal. It was not until Dixie failed, then was reborn, and started doing some small-batch brews, that they finally hit on something that I could drink - Blackened Voodoo, then Red Voodoo, but I do not believe that either was made in New Orleans anymore. The old brewery might have still done a few beers, but it was devastated by Katrina, so think at everything ceased there, and probably long ago.

Now, just across the Lake, the Abita Brewery is turning out some popular stuff, though all that I have tasted have left me questioning - why drink this beer? Still, tourists flock to the Abita beer constantly - think that it is an Internet-fueled "mob reaction," but I have not had everything in their portfolio. My joke with their TurboDog was that it needed to go back through the dog, one more time...

My beer drinking really slowed down in the early 80's, and did not pick back up, until the advent of some of the then micro-breweries (though many are not so "micro" anymore). Because of those, I again branched out to include a lot more imported brews. That market was not all that big, going back. The distribution of such was very limited - today, it's a market that is filled with 100's, if not 1000's of offerings, and many are very good.

Hunt

Rod,

We strayed away from your questions and I don't know if Bill answered them privately.

You got 1920 x 1080 psd with alpha channel that has safety for title and action on it hanging around ???

If Bill doesn't have one handy, right click here to download mine.

You can turn on the black layer if you want to adjust the line for the text up or down. Please note that you probably will not go less than a 48 point type on a 1920X1080 frame. I am more inclined to put my titles a little higher than the line I drew if they are that small. But that line works for rather large text, I think. I generally just wing it.

You can use the Photoshop file itself or export to web using PNG with transparency.

You prefer text up above the middle of the frame instead of using Lower Thirds?

A screen shot of the PSD in Premiere Pro looks like this. Is this what you had in mind?

Rodney,

Not sure if you have seen this article on "Alignment Grids" from Photoshop: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4319250#4319250

Just as I was doing that article, the forums canceled the ability to attach files (due to evil spammers), so I only have SD grids there. I need to just construct the same for standard HD Frame Sizes, pretty much what Steven did, and see if I can attach those now.

I will look at Steven's file, to see if I can determine what your issue with it is.

Good luck, and let us know what you need from us.

Hunt

Steven,

I got a "File Not Found," so assume that you took the PSD down. Is that correct?

Hunt

Rodney,

That was a very generic grid, and could be customized to suit. It shows Action-Safe and Title-Safe, plus the centerlines, horizontal and vertical.

If you are always working with the same size Text Block, and want everything to fit inside that, regardless, you could use the Ps Shape Tool to create a Path for that "block," then just apply a Stroke (no Fill), with maybe bright green, red or blue, and use that to make sure that all Title Text fits within that "box."

I use similar, when doing PiP's, so that I can visually Scale and Position those in the same exact space, at the same exact size.

Lot's of uses - but just remember to turn the Track, where you use the grid, OFF, before you Export, or they WILL be burned into your output file. I have forgotten a few times, and had to redo the Export.

Good luck,

Hunt

Oops. I forgot the dashes in the file name.

The link ought to work now.

Hi able123,

Thanks for contacting adobe forums,

The reason is that

Offline editing is part of the post-production process of

filmmaking and television production in which raw footage

is copied and edited, without affecting the camera original

film stock or video tape. Once the project has been

completely offline edited, the original media will be

assembled in the online editing stage.

I believe this will help you, if there would be any doubt please reply us.

Happy Editing,

Sandeep

Rod,

Are you working in the Sequence Timeline, with the "rubberbands" for the Fixed Effects, or are you working in the Effects Control Panel, with its own little timeline?

If the former, then I think that you will appreciate the Effects Control Panel (ECP). Just Select your Clip/Still/Title, and open the ECP. Everything that you need is right there.

Good luck,

Hunt