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Marking Source In Point Zoom the clip since update CS6 6.0.4

Community Beginner ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Since I updated Premiere CS6 to 6.0.4, the source clip (in the source window) zoom in each time I mark an in or out point. I have to drag the little grey bar to zoom back the entire clip in view.

I tried changing keyboard shortcuts to default Premiere CS6 and others but it's doing the same thing.

What's up? Am I the only one with this behavior?

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Adobe Employee , Aug 27, 2013 Aug 27, 2013

Hi All,

6.0.5 is now available. 6.0.5 update fixes the setting in and out points in the source monitor bug.

Mac:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5630

Win:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5631

Peter Garaway

Adobe

Premiere Pro

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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By the way, it's doing the same thing with the in and out buttons at the bottom of the source window. Not just with the keyboard shortcuts.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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By the way again, why is it possible to zoom in or out in the source and program window. I really don't see the usefulness of that feature. I am not talking about the size of the video but the scaling grey bar of course.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Am I the only one with this behavior?

Nope, it's happening here too... very irritating.

MeToo.png

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New behavior since CS6.0.4 update.

This looks like a bug.

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Hi lebrett,

Thanks for contacting forums. Please provide me the source and the format of the files that you are using and facing this issue. I have tested it with DSLR and wmv files and both worked fine. it might happen that the issue is with some specific file types and folder structures.

Regards,

Vinay

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Panasonic P2 and GoPro.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Panasonic P2 and GoPro.

I can confirm this behavior with both of these formats as well.

Basically... anything I've loaded into the Source Monitor,

(excluding still images).

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Hi joe,

I was able to reproduce the issue on my machine and it happens if you don't create a sequence first and try to open the clip directly in source monitor and then try to select In and out points. So it is happening only while opening a clip directly from project panel into source monitor but if you try to open the clip in source monitor from a timeline this behaviour is not noticed. Please check this behaviour and update all.

Thanks,

Vinay

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People's Champ ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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So it is happening only while opening a clip directly from project panel into source monitor but if you try to open the clip in source monitor from a timeline this behaviour is not noticed.

Hi, Vinay,

[insert vacuous platitude]

This is a pointless exercise.

How often would you think an editor needs to load a source clip

into the Source Monitor from the Project Panel?

I'd say 99.999% of the time.

I hope this is not your idea of a "fix".

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Adobe Employee ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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Hi,

Yes, I can replicate this on my MacBook Pro. Can you all file a bug report so we can get this problem some more attention? Here's the form:

http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks,

Kevin

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People's Champ ,
Aug 16, 2013 Aug 16, 2013

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I see it with all three of the basic media types my camera is capable of shooting. Of course I am using CC now and had to go back to 6.0.4 to see what you guys were talking about.

Report submitted. Not elegant wording, but I think they will get the pont.

******BUG******

Concise problem statement: The timeline in the Source Monitor panel zooms in a bit when setting in and out points.

Steps to reproduce bug:

1.From the Project Panel put a video clip into the Source Monitor

2. Set in and out points

3.See the timeline zoom change.

Results: Zoom changes

Expected results: No zoom change

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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Steven,

Thanks for the bug report text.

My only exception would be the wording "...zooms in a bit".

Depending on the length of the source clip and where you mark

your ins and outs, the zoom in the source timeline will be so drastic

that it zooms the in / out marks entirely out of view.

You have to scroll and adjust the position / scale of the bar

in order to see the marks you have just made to a source clip.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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Apparently the videos I used were to short to get the full effect of the bug. Correction noted.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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The drastic Source Timeline zooming behavior.

.aif clip loaded in Source Monitor, Playhead parked at: 00;01;14;13

.Before.PNG

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Same .aif clip in Source Monitor, after marking in point at: 00;01;14;13

After.PNG

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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OK, that is what I saw and called "a bit". Less than halfway reduced.

I went out and searched my drives for a 30 minute clip. It seemed like an even smaller compression of the timeline as a percentage. So I put a 15 second clip in the Source monitor and it was even less compressed than the picture above.

So, I have decided to stand by my determination that it is "a bit".

Of course, it is still a bug that needs to be fixed, if only because "You broke it, you fix it!"

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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If you're ok with not being able to see your in and out points in the

Source Monitor after you've marked them... then you can call it "a bit".

I will still call it drastic.

Regardless if it bothers you much (you use CC7 anyway) it's a new bug.

For me, this is enough of an encumberance to completely

re-install the first chance I get, and not update to CS6.0.4.

There are not many functions more primary than

marking ins and outs for a source clip.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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Joe,

Read the last line in my post. I said it was a bug that needed to be fixed. I also said from the beginning that I was only trying to help out, and that it would never bother me because I use CC. That doesn't mean I shouldn't pitch in and support you guys who still use CS6. All bugs should be fixed when possible, and this one could certainly be annoying.

As far as I can tell, the only time that the in and out points disappear is when they are towards the end of the clip. Which is no excuse for Adobe not to fix them, but I generally find that I take my best footage from the middle of clips. I get everything set at the beginning, and let it run long to make sure I get everything. But the center is usually the sweet spot of the clip.

On the other hand, occasionally I shoot longer, mainly to keep things in sync by having a constant audio track I can sync against, in which case I am grabbing many subclips from the long clip. I can see where that would certainly be a PITA with this new bug.

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People's Champ ,
Aug 17, 2013 Aug 17, 2013

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...I generally find that I take my best footage from the middle of clips. I get everything set at the beginning, and let it run long to make sure I get everything. But the center is usually the sweet spot of the clip.

Steven, I am afraid you have completely missed the point.

In the above images I have a one minute and fifty one second

production music audio file loaded into the Source Monitor.

The Source Timeline is zoomed out to include the entire clip.

The Playhead is parked at one minute and fourteen seconds.

After marking an in point, only the first thirty six seconds of the

audio clip is visible in the Source Monitor, and the marked in point

has completely disappeared out of view.

It would not be as bad if at least it zoomed in to center

the marked in or out point in the Source Monitor view.

Try dealing with that for a couple of days of real editing.

Or, use CC7.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 18, 2013 Aug 18, 2013

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Has there been a fix for this?

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People's Champ ,
Aug 18, 2013 Aug 18, 2013

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Has there been a fix for this?

Not yet.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 18, 2013 Aug 18, 2013

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Steven's work around works great for now! Thanks

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2013 Aug 19, 2013

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All this being said, I still don't get the usefulness of those zoom bars (Source & Program Window). Maybe Adobe could add a simple option in the Wrench Menu to deactivate this.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2013 Aug 19, 2013

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The point of the zoom bar is to be able to zoom into and out of the view, whether sequence or clip.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2013 Aug 19, 2013

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Zooming the timeline I get that I use it constantly. But not the source or program window since there is nothing to zoom at aside from the timecode or the ticks marks!!!

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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2013 Aug 19, 2013

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Zooming in on a long clip make make selecting the points you want much easier.

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