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How to export file as ProRes (or best broadcast option) from PremierePro on PC w/ win 7

Community Beginner ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

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I am trying to submit a PSA to a local network and they want a digital download preferably as ProRes. I have not been able to find that codec as an option and see that it may only be available on a Mac. Time and money are both issues and I just want to get this done. If ProRes is not an option with Premiere Pro or Media Encoder, then what is the next best quicktime/mov option for broadcast? I don't know the difference between the listed option in MediaEncoder.

Any mindshare with steps to take and options would be much appreciated. Thanks for reading this.

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Adobe Employee , Sep 11, 2013 Sep 11, 2013

Hi keaproductions,

If you must output ProRes from Windows, check out Telestream Episode: http://www.telestream.net/episode/features.htm

Thanks,

Kevin

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LEGEND ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

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Ask them if they will accept a Hi Bitrate H264 File.

Either .mov or MP4.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

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Thanks. I will ask.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

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DNxHD in the MXF wrapper would probably be the best choice - quality wise.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

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Thanks. Any opinions about:

A) HD 1080I 29.97 48KHZ QT1920X1080 29.97

B) HD 1080I 29.97 H.264, AAC 48KHZ QT1920X1080 29.97

C) HD 1080I 29.97 H.2641920X1080 29.97

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LEGEND ,
Sep 11, 2013 Sep 11, 2013

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QuickTime is a outdated and buggy container, so I never use or recommend it.  That leaves AVI and MXF as the containers of choice for I-frame media, which may not be necessary here but will usually provide higher quality than interframe compression.

For AVI you can write Uncompressed, lagarith or UT, all of which are lossless and will provide the very best quality.  But Uncompressed will be quite large, and the others will require the TV station to install those codecs, so they may not be the best choice.

Which brings us back around to DNxHD in the MXF wrapper.  It's an excellent option quality wise, and is an industry standard format.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 11, 2013 Sep 11, 2013

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Reality is Broadcasters dont broadcast master files so it would be up to them if they were prepared to do a transcode for the "client".

I would doubt it because TVC delivery is often via a server.

That why I sugested "ask the broadcaster" what they will accept.

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Community Beginner ,
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Thanks, Shooternz. Actually a local TV station said they would air a PSA but wanted a digital download as "ProRes" and that's how this started. Since I made the switch from FinalCut to Premiere and from a Mac to a PC, I don't have ProRes apparently as an option in Premiere Pro. I had submitted a PSA earlier this year to another network and it was an uncompressed AVI file, but this network wants something close to prores.

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Adobe Employee ,
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Hi keaproductions,

If you must output ProRes from Windows, check out Telestream Episode: http://www.telestream.net/episode/features.htm

Thanks,

Kevin

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Community Beginner ,
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Thanks, Jim. I guess I'm missing some basic knowledge: what does DNxHD stand for in the MXF?

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LEGEND ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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what does DNxHD stand for in the MXF?

DNxHD is a codec on par with ProRes, but available for both Windows and Macs.  MXF is the next generation container format replacing both AVI and MOV.

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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.....yeah "Telestream"......a program that does what Adobe SHOULD DO....considering its cost.

.......maybe they will even sell it to you on a monthly " subscription" basis....ya know, like the Sopranos crew did with pizza parlors !!!!........AAAAY!!!!......OHHHHHH!!...........

........FUGGETABOUTIT !!!!!!!........

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Contributor ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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I use ffmpeg.  It's free.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Thanks, Rejdmast1. Where do I get ffmpeg? I've heard of mpeg but what does the ff stand for...

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Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Google is your best friend:

http://www.ffmpeg.org/

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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You're funny. Did a search after asking. Thanks again!

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 17, 2013 Sep 17, 2013

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rejdmast1 wrote:

I use ffmpeg.  It's free.

And a gross patent violation of Apple's interlectual property.

ffmpeg did a non-clean room (ie illegal in the USA) reverse engineering of the ProRes format to work out how it worked and then implemented it.

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Adobe Employee ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Hi JFPhoton,

Though Episode can do this, I don't know of any NLEs that can output ProRes from a Windows machine. I'm sure it's not a trivial task. If you really want this, please file a feature request: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

In the mean time, check out DNxHD.

Thanks,

Kevin

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Thanks, Kevin. It probably is worth asking adobe to consider this since I'm not the first to ask. I saw threads from all the way back to 2011 and still no resolution... Adobe? Listening?

And I still don't know how to match up or find DNxHD. I'm not making the connection to the Premiere Pro output options...

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keaproductions wrote:

Thanks, Kevin. It probably is worth asking adobe to consider this since I'm not the first to ask. I saw threads from all the way back to 2011 and still no resolution

Hi keaproductions,

By all means, make a feature request for it. Here's the link: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks,
Kevin

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Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Thanks, again, Jim. However, I don't know where to find DNxHD with MXF. I don't seem to be able to match it up with the PremierePro options...

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Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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I did a search about DNxHD with MXF and see that it is an AVID format... is there a way to use it with premiere?

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People's Champ ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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Avid Codecs 2.3.7 - DNxHD (pc or mac) / 'virtually lossless'

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/download/en423319

All you need to know about encoding DNxHD by Fuzzy Barsik:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5331048#5331048

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Thanks, Joe.

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Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

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....which version of PPro are you using ?...its important vis a vis the DNxHD.

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