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1. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
able123 Oct 20, 2013 2:33 PM (in response to John T Smith)probably the 2nd problem has to do with adminitrative rights on that network...have access to her doc folder. stuff is getting more and more complicated re: rights and security... sometimes the 'answer' for the software co. is to just turn things OFF... with updates.
kinda like take two steps forward to make networking easy... and then take one step Back when theres a vulnerable code etc.
its a never ending pain in the butt if you ask me... always having to worry about creeps out there... with ill intent...
grrrrrr
its one thing calling someone a warthog.. its quite another thing to sneak up to a home and throw a brick in the window.... the first I dont mind at all.. the second is really bad news....
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2. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Oct 20, 2013 5:00 PM (in response to John T Smith)When you update to 8.1, you lose access to the Homegroup. You just need to add yourself back with the password.
Won't help with the driver issue, though.
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3. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 20, 2013 6:30 PM (in response to Jim Simon)>just need to add yourself back with the password
Tried that... didn't work... same problem, not able to access her documents folder
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4. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Bill Hunt Oct 20, 2013 7:01 PM (in response to John T Smith)John T.,
Seems that the Win8.1 issues are starting to roll in. Looked promising, at first, but maybe not so good now. Wonder when Win8.2 is scheduled?
Good luck,
Hunt
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5. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 20, 2013 8:30 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)I just saw a headline in Google news that Win8.1 RT has been pulled because it was "bricking" tablets
I have certainly "pulled" Win8.1 off my wife's computer (I'm REALLY happy that I made an "Image" before installing so I could restore!!!) and now her 3D function is working again while she arranges "stuff" in the plan for our new house (when this one someday sells)
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6. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Steven L. Gotz Oct 21, 2013 12:19 PM (in response to John T Smith)Be careful about the plans. Don't include a double headed shower. My new house has one and it makes it difficult to get out of the darn shower. I just love having hot water hit me from two directions. But don't do it. The water bills are going to be horrendous if I keep this up.
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7. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Bill Hunt Oct 21, 2013 2:31 PM (in response to Steven L. Gotz)Steven,
I will remember that, should we survive the kitchen/pool remodel, and decide to tackle the master bath... doubt that I will survive though. Just had one of those in Washington, DC, and I was almost late for dinner two nights - you are correct.
Hunt
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8. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Oct 21, 2013 4:33 PM (in response to John T Smith)Tried that... didn't work... same problem, not able to access her documents folder
Yeah, it does seem that 8.1 changes some sharing and permissions that you will need to fix. But once done, it seems to work fine.
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9. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 21, 2013 6:44 PM (in response to Jim Simon)At this point, the only possible fix for wife's 3D program problem is an upgrade from her 2012 CAD program to the 2014 version... and no guarantee that Win8.1 won't break that as well
Looks like I will have to watch her Windows Update screens, and block 8.1 from installing
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10. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
lasvideo Oct 21, 2013 7:42 PM (in response to John T Smith)Adobe CS6, Cinema 4D R15 and various other software run like butter on Win 7. I have no desire or inclanation to wreak havoc on my Z820 by getting Win 8.
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11. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 22, 2013 8:11 AM (in response to lasvideo)I am also sticking with Win7... my wife is one of the few people who LIKES the initial tile/menu screen in Win8
Once past the tile/menu screen, Win8 has much the same desktop as Win7, and it runs her programs the same... but there are clearly enough code changes, especially in the 8.1 version, to cause problems with some functions/programs
Someday I will build a new computer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1305373 and I have an unused Win7 64bit to install, so will use that instead of Win8
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12. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Bill Hunt Oct 22, 2013 8:47 AM (in response to John T Smith)Going back some years, I had a few 3D and 3D "paint" programs, that were legacy. None would run on a machine with more than 512MB RAM (yeah, that was once a "high limit"), a C:\ larger than 1GB, or any Windows OS, after WinME (that dog), so I built a computer just for them, with a fast (for the day) CPU and GPU, but < 1GB RAM, a tiny C:\, and only those programs, plus about Ps 7.0.1. That machine served its purpose for about 3 years, and I was finally able to find newer replacement programs for each - then I just rebuilt the machine with 4GB RAM, XP-Pro and a decent C:\. Sometimes legacy software needs a special touch - sort of like having a older doggie in the household.
Personally, you guys are making me feel better that I am sticking with XP-Pro on two machines, and Win7-64 on the other two. Might be missing a bell, or two, and maybe a whistle, but things are running fine. So I keep harking back to the old, "if it ain't broke... "
Good luck,
Hunt
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13. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Oct 22, 2013 9:44 AM (in response to lasvideo)Adobe CS6, Cinema 4D R15 and various other software run like butter on Win 7.
I can't speak for Cinema 4D, but both the CS6 and CC suites run just fine under both Windows 8 and 8.1. And there are some nice improvements in 8 over 7. They're not major, not necessarily worth a reinstall. But for anyone looking to build or buy a new system, I'd definitely recommend Windows 8 over 7.
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14. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 22, 2013 9:45 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)>harking back to the old, "if it ain't broke... "
Wife would still be on WinXP except she likes to have SO many programs open at once that the max 4gig of XP 32bit was "overwhelmed" by the demands of her workflow
I was going to put Win7 64bit pro on the computer I built for her last November, except she saw Win8 in a store and INSISTED on Win8
Now, I am hoping that I can review her monthly Win8 updates in time to block the 8.1 update... or I will have to do "something" else to make her 3D program work again
Her ATI 5450 has not had a driver update in a long time (and not likely to have any in the future since it is now a "legacy" card according to ATI) so I would have to replace a perfectly good card with a newer model, to be able to get a newer driver... one more "Microsoft Tax" to pay!
Anyway, I restored her computer back to Win8 and she is happy again
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15. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Oct 22, 2013 9:48 AM (in response to John T Smith)I am hoping that I can review her monthly Win8 updates in time to block the 8.1 update.
I don't believe 8.1 will ever be an 'update'. I believe Microsoft is considering it an 'upgrade' and only making it available through the Store. Meaning you have to initiate the process manually.
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16. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
John T Smith Oct 22, 2013 10:12 AM (in response to Jim Simon)Hmm... I thought Win8.1 would be an eventual "push" update, so manually did the "update" to have a faster download ahead of the "push"
I will still watch her "push, updates" to be sure 8.1 is not downloaded
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17. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Nov 3, 2013 2:50 PM (in response to John T Smith)You can always set her machine to download the updates but require user input for the actual install. Then just tell her to let you handle the updates. That way you don't need to 'watch', just 'check' every now and then.
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19. Re: Windows 8.1 Problem(s)
Jim Simon Nov 3, 2013 2:50 PM (in response to John T Smith)Hmm, thankfully not here.




