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1. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Nov 26, 2013 6:05 PM (in response to hal_ek)Really an added question!
If I form a new sequence with my 2 clips on 2 Vid tracks, and I syncronize them the old fashoned way using the audio wave forms, can I then use that sequence in the multicam mode to switch between clips at cuts?
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2. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
Vinay Dwivedi Nov 26, 2013 6:11 PM (in response to hal_ek)Hi hal_ek,
Please check the below link which has all thw necessary information and the proper workflow for creating a multi can sequence.
http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/create-multi-camera-source-sequence.html
Regards,
Vinay
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3. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Nov 30, 2013 7:51 PM (in response to Vinay Dwivedi)I have reviewed the reference that you provided but I can not interpret why my projects are not working properly.
For example the instructions highlight "start a new project"
I have a poject that has a title sequence that I want to reuse. I saved that project including the title sequence and an empty folder for the clips that I added but this gave me the results that I noted in the start of this discussion.
Is reusing the project the reason my multi-cam sequence does not always synch?
How closely must the clips be to synch?
Is there an answer to my manual synch question?
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4. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
JSS1138 Dec 1, 2013 12:47 PM (in response to hal_ek)I can't answer the original sync question, but to answer your question about the manually created MC sequence - yes. In fact, I think the manual way is still the best way.
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5. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Dec 5, 2013 2:21 PM (in response to JSS1138)I tried using 2 clips and generating a sequence from them.
I then aligned them manually using the audio track. So far everything ok.
When I viewed them in the project monitor set to "Multi-cam view", and "link audio to video". At that point the camera selection had no effect.
I think I am following the .."create-multi-camera-source...." instructions properly but can not get the 2 clips to align properly using the auto system even though the audio tracks are clearly equal.
If I generate the MC source sequence Then in order to move the clips, one relative to the other, I have been using Control click. That generates a new sequence where both camera are visable but the realigning is not reflected back on the source sequence.
So thus far I am not having any luck with the auto system!
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6. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
JSS1138 Dec 5, 2013 7:26 PM (in response to hal_ek)1. Create a sequence.
2. Add your clips.
3. Sync them manually.
4. Create a second sequence.
5. Nest the first sequence into the second.
6. Right click that nested sequence, click Multi-Camera>Enable
Now it will work properly.
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7. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Dec 10, 2013 9:44 AM (in response to JSS1138)Thanks for your response!
I did get that to work, but with some more questions.
I originally did not remember how to get the NEST command to work, so I went to the Help & Tutorials site for nest.That site showed selecting the 2 clips (On V1 & V2) then rt click & hit nest. That did work, but I was surprised that it did not show the new nested sequence as a second option on the timeline. The effect was the proper with the 2 cameras showing as 1 green clip on V1 with the ability to switch between them.
?1. Is there a better way to get to this point?
?2. I noted that the audio levels were quite high. Could that be the reason the auto-sync would not work?
?3 Is there a way to reduce the audio level before attempting the use the auto-sync? Other than making a new AVI from a project with one clip. We apparently need to reduce our camera audio setting during recording.
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8. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Dec 10, 2013 10:56 AM (in response to hal_ek)Well I have experimented further.
I made 2 new clips with audio reduced about 10 db.
That was not the answer to auto-sync. Those two clips were about 3 sec off sync originally and auto-sync did not work.
However when I reduced the out-of-sync to about 1 second then they did auto-sync.
I reduced the original out-of-sync by setting the inpoint of the longer clip by 2 seconds later.
Is that method really equivalent to having the clips in closer to starting at the same time?
I wonder if anyone else could comment on my difficulties with the multi-camera audio sync.
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9. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
JSS1138 Dec 10, 2013 10:58 AM (in response to hal_ek)1. Is there a better way to get to this point?
Yes, just drag the first sequence into the second from the bin.
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10. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Dec 19, 2013 9:42 AM (in response to JSS1138)It seems like I have finally broken the code on getting the Multi-cam audio synch to work consistantly!
All of our 2 camera shoots have starting points that are not the same on the two clips.
I have tried using having the 2 clips in a folder and then selecting the folder and using the Clips>Create Multi...
That process worked some of the time, also selecting individual clips and then using the Clips>Create Multi... worked sometimes.
To get to the bottom line, PP in using the Create Multi-Cam.... is controled by the order in which clips are selected.
Apparently if a folder is selected then the selection is alphabetic which is proper sometimes. I have found that
THE FIRST CLIP SELECTED MUST BE THE ONE WHICH STARTS EARLIEST!
Nowhere in my review of all the info on the use of the Multi-Cam... did I find any reference to that factor. That has certainly been a source of much frustration.
Once the proper order of selection is made then the system works nicely as expected.
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11. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
Mark Mapes Dec 19, 2013 3:01 PM (in response to hal_ek)Excellent troubleshooting, hal_ek!
What version of PPRO CC are you using? A change in 7.2 addressed an issue that sounds similar: Sync by audio does not work correctly if the clip on Track 1 (or Camera 1 for multicam sequences) starts later than the other cameras.
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12. Re: Multi-cam Source Sequence
hal_ek Dec 19, 2013 4:21 PM (in response to Mark Mapes)I am using Ver 7.1.0(141)
I am using it on a annual subscription, and I frankly thought the setup included automatic updates. Or has 7.2 not been released yet?
Thanks for your response.
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