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      • 240. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
        Norbert Heyl Community Member

        Just made a quick test pasting several RGB (Profoto RGB) and CMYK pictures (Iso Coated V2) in an InDesign document (Color-Settings: Fogra 39L). Exported the InDesign document to a PDF using PDF/X-1a 2001) with document CMYK ISO-Coated V2.

         

        Softproof is exactly the same in Photoshop (13.0.6 x64), InDesign (8.0.2) and Acrobat (10.1.9) all CS6. I made two tests: One with Black Simulation and Paper White activated and one with both disactivated. In both cases the softproofs where exactly the same.

         

        Tomorrow I will made a proof print on a fogra certificated printing system. EFI Express 4.5 RIP on Apple Mac Mini 2Ghz Core 2 Duo OSX 10.7.5 with Epson 4900 Pro with SpectroProofer. I will then double check the print under norm light.

         

        System for the softproof: Apple MacBook Pro mid 2012 Core i7 2.7 Ghz with OSX 10.8.5 with a hardware calibrated NEC MultiSynch 3090WYXi.

         

        Since several of us still are reporting problems maybe a slight difference in systems could be the reason behind this. Some may remember when Apple updated to 10.8.5 all Apple MacBook Pros from late 2008 suddenly had problems with loosing the WiFi connection after shutting down. Only the MacBook Pro late 2008 was effected no other Apple computer. Only to say that minor differences in the proof system may have severe impacts on the proof result.

        • 241. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
          sbgraphic

          Also made a quick test on osx 10.8.5, with Indesign 8.0.2 CS6 and Acrobat Pro 10.1.9.

           

          It look like it's (partially?) fixed in cmyk for me, but only if you activate 'color proofing' preview in Indesign and, in Acrobat Pro you must check the 'simulate black ink' box

           

          Otherwise if you don't, you cannot have the same preview. If I remind correctly, this was not necessary before 10.x as it was using the monitor profile instead by default (or something like that...)

           

          You also might feel the colors looks different as the app background is different in indesign (medium grey) and Acrobat (dark grey). As you may know, it seriously influence the perception of colours on your screen, so be aware.

           

          However I was suprised that Acrobat Reader (11.x) cannot handle/preview in cmyk correctly with an embedded profile...

          why?

           

          see my settings below (in French sorry)

           

          1-Indesign_setting_FR.png2-Acrobat_setting_FR.png

           

          edited by sbgraphic

          • 242. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
            LarsMerkur Community Member

            This is definitely not fixed. At first glance it looks good, but its not.

            Have a look at Cyan for example (only a wide gamut monitor will show this right).

             

            Acro9vsX-Cyan.jpg

            Before and after 10.1.9 upgrade

            10.0.0vs9.5.5.jpg

            10.1.9vs9.5.5.jpg

             

            Im seeing this on ISO 12646 certified EIZO ColorEdge CG242W.

             

            Adobe: What the "#$%$%&$?

            No one in the entire world is able to view colors right on a Mac unless you are on the very outdated Acrobat 9. You are responsible.

            • 243. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
              JThoeming Community Member

              Thx Lars for posting this cyan example - it confirms what I've written before ...

               

              Only a system managed with correct colormanagement AND a wide gammut hardware calibrated Monitor is reliably able to show that this issue is still NOT fixed with Acrobat 10 or 11 on Mountain Lion or Mavericks ...

               

              Regards

              Jörg

              • 244. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                LarsMerkur Community Member

                You are right Jörg...

                And I think we can sadly say that the Acrobat R&D team, believe it or not is using "sRGB" monitors to develope softproofing software.

                • 245. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                  JThoeming Community Member

                  Hey Lars,

                   

                  I'm still traveling with version 11.0.04 - now there is version 11.0.07 ... nothing heard anymore about the color issue - is it solved now?

                   

                  Regards

                  Jörg

                  • 246. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                    anonymorse Community Member

                    Hi All,

                     

                    Has there been any resolution to this? We have just upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.9.2 and are now experiencing this.

                     

                    I won't add any more screen shots, but we are using a proven colour managed workflow, and the only thing which has changed is the upgrade to 10.9 plus a fresh install of CS6.

                     

                    Again we're on hardware calibrated screens. Indesign and Photoshop match, Acrobat does not.

                     

                    Any help is greatly appreciated.

                    • 247. Re: Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                      JThoeming Community Member

                      Hi there ... till now the following ist the only »help« to bring color management back to Acrobat - not testet yet with the latest Yosemite:

                       

                      There is a workaround (on Mavericks - but it should be the same on Mountain Lion) with Color Faker (http://github.com/iccir/ColorFaker) which seems to work till a fix will come ...

                       

                      Start Color Faker and switch it on (important that no Adobe Software is running at this time) - start Acrobat ... go back to Color Faker and switch it off ... since you dont close Acrobat it has the Fake Color in its cache and the preview of the color is as it should.

                       

                      The rest of the Adobe Suite seems  to work normal (Without any guarantee! Please check it out by yourself and post here if you find another issue in this workaround - thanks) ...


                      Regards

                      Jörg

                      • 248. Re: Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                        aktivomat Community Member

                        hi there!

                         

                        just for info: for me colorfaker was the solution i could live with. but now i upgraded to yosemite and colorfaker doesn't work anymore. at least as it should work because now the colors in acrobat looks just too glare. even jörgs workaround couldn't be done any more because colorfaker and acrobat just crashes immediately  when colorfaker ist turned on. it's really ridiculous that nobody (acrobat or apple... still don't understand who should fix it) is able to fix this issue.

                        • 249. Re: Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                          thorx1308 Community Member

                          I also can not understand, why this big bug is unfixed for so long time?

                          Are they sleeping?

                          Since Acrobat 10 the Bug is still alive, and Adobe doesn´t fix it.

                          Shame on you

                          • 250. Re: Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                            JThoeming Community Member

                            Yes - I confirm with aktivomat and the reply from thorx1308 ... colorfaker doesn't work anymore under Yosemite and after two years its now time Adobe ...

                             

                            Hopefully, Adobe will fix this damn bug with the next (full) Version (if they are testing with hardware calibrated Monitors - it seem they dont) and are able to have a look how InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop work - in all these Apps colormanagement work fine!!

                             

                            Greets

                            Joerg

                            • 251. Re: Color issues in Mountain Lion with Acrobat Pro
                              anonymorse Community Member

                              So 2 years down the line, have we had any official word from Adobe? It would be nice to know this has at least been Acknowledged...?

                               

                              Checking accurate colour in our PDFs is integral for our workflow, and with a pending OS and software update coming for us this is very concerning....

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