12 Replies Latest reply: Aug 13, 2014 3:48 AM by lucy newman RSS

    Audition - Restoring Original

    Petrula Community Member

      Premiere Pro CC v7.2.1

      Win7 Pro 64-bit

       

      In Premiere, you have a clip which was edited via "Edit clip in Adobe Audition".

      Premiere never changes the original clip, it creates a separate audio file which Premiere uses.

      You later reopen the project in order to restore that clip to the original.

      There does not appear to be a "restore original audio" menu item for the clip.

      How do you restore the clip audio to the original?

       

      Thanks in advance.

        • 1. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
          JSS1138 CommunityMVP

          Go back to the bin and find it there.

          • 2. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
            Petrula Community Member

            It appears everytime you edit using Audition, Premiere adds a new wave file to the bin.

             

            If you select one of the wav files in the bin, there is a "Edit original" in the context menu for it. However, it opens the Windows Media Player.

             

            If you delete all the wav files, the clip in the sequence tab only has the video, but not the audio i.e. the audio is deleted.

             

            So what are the exact steps to restore the original audio for the clip?

             

            Thanks

            • 3. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
              JSS1138 CommunityMVP

              Go back to the bin and find the original audio.

               

              There's no automatic way to do this.  You'll need to manually replace the clips in question.

               

              Would make for a good feature request, though.  "Undo Replace... " I see it being very helpful for both Audition clips and Dynamically Linked AE comps.

              • 4. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                i have to ask why you would want the original audio back after working so ohard in Audition to get it right?

                • 5. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                  Petrula Community Member

                  Jim - Thanks for the feedback.

                   

                  Steve - As the Lynda courses on Audition emphasize repeatively, audio editing is destructive (changes the original) while video editing (Premiere) never changes the original video clip. If you realize your audio edits need to be changed, you need to start with the original. This is why Audition books say never edit the original - edit a copy.

                  • 6. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                    Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                    I get that, I just can't remember ever needing to use the original again.

                     

                    Although, it seems like it would be easy enough to grab it out of the original video clip and relink it. You would have to sync it - kind of a hassle I imagine.

                     

                    As far as I know, when you ask to edit in Audition, it makes a copy for you. It doesn't destroy the original at all. It just doesn't leave the original on the timeline. That would be a cool option though. Make the copy, create a new track to put it on, mute the original clip, and then edit in Audition.

                    • 7. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                      JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                      It'd be easier (and more organized in the sequence) to just have some sort of Restore Original command via right click to undo both Audition edits and AE Replace commands, even after closing the project.

                      • 8. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                        Petrula Community Member

                        Jim - Before submitting this as a Feature and Bug request to

                        Feature Request/Bug Report Form

                        https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

                         

                        Please let me know if the following correctly summarizes the situation.

                        If it does, I  hope you and others will also submit it. Thanks.

                         

                        In the Premiere Pro CC v7.2.1 timeline, when you edit a clip via "Edit Clip in Adobe Audition",

                        Premiere never changes the original clip. It creates a separate audio WAV and PKF in the bin.

                        If you re-edit the clip, Audition creates a new WAV and PKF with "Audio Extracted" appended to the filename.

                        This leaves multiple WAV and PKF files for the same clip which is annoying.

                         

                        If you later reopen the project in order to edit the original, there are issues.

                        In the timeline, if you select the audio part of the clip, the "Edit Original" is grey.

                        In the Project window, if you select one of the WAV files for the clip in the bin,

                        the "Edit Original" menu item for the clip does not edit the original - it opens Windows Media Player.

                        This Is A Bug. In the timeline, one should be able to select the audio, then select "Edit Original", and have it edit the original.

                        Also, it should delete all the previous multiple WAV and PKF files.

                         

                        There Is Also A Major Feature Missing. One should be able to "Restore Original".

                        Specifically, in the timeline, one should be able to select the audio, then select "Restore Original", and have Premiere place the original audio back.

                        Premiere should also delete all the WAV  and PKF files for the clip.

                        • 9. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                          JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                          Edit Original isn't designed to do what you're thinking.  That feature is working correctly.

                           

                          The issue is that PP simply does not have the feature that you need.  So here's what I suggest submitting:

                           

                          *******Enhancement / FMR*********

                           

                          RESTORE ORIGINAL

                           

                          I'd like to get the option to undo both the "Replace with After Effects Composition" and "Edit Clip in Adobe Audition" commands, even after the project has been closed and Undo is no longer available.  A simple right click>"Restore Original" command would return the clip to it's original state before the Replace or Edit commands were initiated.

                           

                          Why is this feature important to you?

                          Editors make mistakes.  This gives us a simple method to undo or even redo the work without having to manually find and replace the affected clips.

                          • 10. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                            Petrula Community Member

                            Jim - Thanks for the proper wording of the feature request.

                             

                            What is "Edit Original" designed to do?

                            Why does it bring up Windows Media Player?

                            Obviously, I have MP3 assigned to Windows Media Player for the browser.

                            But Premiere should not care about that.

                            It is also strange that each Audition re-edit creates a new WAV and PKF rather than modify the existing WAV PKF.

                            • 11. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                              JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                              Edit Original opens the file in the application you have set as the default program for that file type.

                              • 12. Re: Audition - Restoring Original
                                lucy newman Community Member

                                Great. I've done this feature request. This would be an excellent feature and make me feel much safer when sending off my clips to Audition. Hope to see this soon.