11 Replies Latest reply: Apr 25, 2014 9:07 AM by John T Smith RSS

    CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit

    Jimdrob Community Member
    Jimdrob Apr 22, 2014 8:58 AM

      I have a Project that totals approximately 4GB (time of 1 hour 43 minutes) that I am trying to create using Encore with a static menu. The project will fit until I add the menu so I'm wondering how much more space does the menu take up in Encore CS5? I'm using a 35MB PSD image as the menu background. Is there anything I can do in the encoding process out of Premiere Pro that will reduce the file sizes without sacrificing too much quality? Thak you for any guidance you can give as I'm relatively new at this with a project this size.

        • 1. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
          John T Smith CommunityMVP
          John T Smith Apr 22, 2014 9:17 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

          What is your video input to Encore, and do you have Encore set to use AUTOMATIC encoding?

           

          CS5-thru-CC PPro/Encore tutorial list http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1448923 may help

          • 2. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
            Jimdrob Community Member
            Jimdrob Apr 22, 2014 9:36 AM (in response to John T Smith)

            I'm not exactly sure how to answer that. I imported the mpeg2dvd files after they were encoded from PremierePro. I looked but can't find where Encore might be set to AUTOMATIC encoding. I'll check again.

            • 3. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
              John T Smith CommunityMVP
              John T Smith Apr 22, 2014 10:49 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

              MPEG2-DVD creates audio and video that you do not really want to re-encode in Encore

               

              Export standard or widescreen DV AVI from PPro to use for authoring in Encore... and check the help file or PDF to find out how to tell Encore to use Automatic encoding to make a "best fit" for your project to DVD

              • 4. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                Stan Jones CommunityMVP
                Stan Jones Apr 22, 2014 11:00 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

                The project will fit until I add the menu

                A single, static menu takes a very small amount of space. What convinced you that it would fit before the menu, and that it would not when you added the menu? There may be other issues are work.

                 

                You don't actually say, you are making a DVD, not bluray, correct? It is implied by the 4Gig being close, but I want to be sure.

                • 5. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                  Jimdrob Community Member
                  Jimdrob Apr 22, 2014 1:34 PM (in response to John T Smith)

                  Thank you. I will try this.

                  • 6. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                    Jimdrob Community Member
                    Jimdrob Apr 22, 2014 1:35 PM (in response to Stan Jones)

                    Yes, it is a DVD. I burned it succesfully once without the menu.

                    • 7. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                      Stan Jones CommunityMVP
                      Stan Jones Apr 23, 2014 10:12 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

                      Sometimes, the space left is very small. And just adding a menu would require a smaller file.

                      • 8. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                        Jimdrob Community Member
                        Jimdrob Apr 25, 2014 7:45 AM (in response to John T Smith)

                        John, I created the widescreen DV AVI as you suggested and that went very well. However, it did not play well on my home DVD player which is at least 10 years old. I understand the likelihood that not every machine will be able to play DVDs I burn, but the MPEG2-DVDs I burn do play on that same home DVD player. I'm just curious if you think something else could be at play there involving the difference between DV AVI and MPEG2-DVD or does that player just need to be replaced?

                         

                        Speaking of MPEG2 DVD, why do I not want to re-encode that in Encore?

                         

                        Thank you for your time and advice. I feel tremendously more enlightened already.

                         

                        Jim

                        • 9. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                          John T Smith CommunityMVP
                          John T Smith Apr 25, 2014 8:47 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

                          When you export DV AVI and author with Encore, it transcodes to MPG/VOB for the format required to play a DVD (VOB is MPG)

                           

                          When you export MPEG2-DVD and author with Encore, the IDEA is that you create your MPEG2-DVD files to the correct bitrate and size to fit on a DVD... so if your MPEG2-DVD files are too large to fit, Encore has to transcode again, which can reduce quality

                           

                          Because I personally choose not to get into bit budgeting calculations to export MPEG2-DVD I always export Widescreen DV AVI from PPro (source is either AVCHD or HiDef MOV from a different camera) and my Encore results are very good... so I don't know why your results are not as good

                          • 10. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                            Jimdrob Community Member
                            Jimdrob Apr 25, 2014 8:56 AM (in response to John T Smith)

                            Thanks, John.

                             

                            My results were very good except for that one player (that's one out of three that I've tested). I've been told in the past that burned DVDs will play on most devices but there will always be some that won't play them. Does that sound accurate to you? Like I said, maybe my home player is just too old.

                             

                            Thanks again for your help!

                            • 11. Re: CS5 - Need Help Making Project Fit
                              John T Smith CommunityMVP
                              John T Smith Apr 25, 2014 9:07 AM (in response to Jimdrob)

                              Based on what I've read here (no personal experience with a burned DVD not playing) the official DVD specification for hardware does not require a player to work with a burned DVD at all, only with "pressed" discs made from a "glass master" at a replication facility... very much like CD players way back when CD burners 1st came out... not all CD players would work with a burned CD

                               

                              What I do to increase the chances that a burned DVD will play is have Encore create an ISO on my hard drive, and then use Imgburn to do the actual burning... at the slowest possible speed so the "burned pits" have the best possible chance of being well formed... I set Imgburn to use 1x speed, and it will then adjust as needed to match the brand of media, still using the slowest burn speed allowed

                               

                              The brand of media can also influence playback... Use Taiyo Yuden single layer or Verbatim Two layer Or Falcon Pro for inkjet printable Two layer

                               

                              Read http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1322583 for notes on installing Imgburn WITHOUT any toolbar add-ons... send the author a donation if you like the program