10 Replies Latest reply: Aug 20, 2014 6:06 PM by Chris Cox RSS

    creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?

    Cecil T Chameleon

      creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?

        • 1. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
          Noel Carboni Community Member

          Please post more specific info.

           

          -Noel

          • 2. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
            Sanitarium666 Community Member

            Photoshop, After Effects, Illustrator and Premiere crashes for me to, everytime I try to launch. Dreamweaver works though.

            • 4. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
              Sanitarium666 Community Member

              It's been working well for over a month now but after I had to re-install Win7 pro 64, Photoshop won't start.

               

              Faulting application name: Photoshop.exe, version: 15.1.0.148, time stamp: 0x53d97a8f

              Faulting module name: atiocl64.dll, version: 2.3.451.0, time stamp: 0x4cfd9adc

              Exception code: 0xc0000005

              Fault offset: 0x0000000000074fd0

              Faulting process id: 0xf2c

              Faulting application start time: 0x01cfba89ec7f30ad

              Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014\Photoshop.exe

              Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Stream\bin\x86_64\atiocl64.dll

              Report Id: 2f883f6f-267d-11e4-b67c-88532e18ee52

              • 5. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                Sanitarium666 Community Member

                I installed the latest display driver from AMD but no luck.

                • 6. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                  Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                  If ATI's latest drivers don't solve a crash in ATI's drivers - then you need to contact ATI so they can get more information to solve the crashing bug in their drivers.

                  • 7. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                    Woodsroad Community Member

                    SOLUTION:

                     

                    Navigate to

                    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014

                    Locate sniffer.exe and rename it ~sniffer.exe

                     

                    SOLVED

                     

                    This solution was offered by Adobe chat support, after a very long and fruitless exchange. Apparently, the support tech finally asked around, and someone else in the room gave him the correct answer.

                     

                    Adobe: I understand you are unable to launch Photoshop CC 2014 as getting error Adobe Photoshop CC 2014 has stopped working on your Windows 7 computer, is that right?
                    Me: Correct
                    Adobe: Thank you for confirming the issue.
                    Adobe: I will be glad to help you with this.
                    Me: PS goes through initialization, then quits

                    Adobe: Please click on start Button and type Event Viewer and open Event Viewer Window.
                    Adobe: Once you have it open, let me know .,
                    Me: Done

                    Adobe: Now please expand Windows Logs option and select Applications.
                    Me: Done

                    Adobe: You will get Notification on right as Error , Warning, Information
                    Adobe: Please check if you have any Error Notifications.
                    Me: Yes

                    Adobe: If yes, please double click on Error Notification and check if it is for Photoshop
                    Adobe: If yes, please copy the information and paste on this chat.
                    Me: Faulting application name: Photoshop.exe, version: 15.1.0.148, time stamp: 0x53d97a8f Faulting module name: atiocl64.dll, version: 2.3.451.0, time stamp: 0x4cfd9adc

                    Me: + System - Provider [ Name] Application Error - EventID 1000 [ Qualifiers] 0 Level 2 Task 100 Keywords 0x80000000000000 - TimeCreated [ SystemTime] 2014-08-20T19:17:45.000000000Z EventRecordID 10827 Channel Application Computer Dans-8760w Security - EventData Photoshop.exe 15.1.0.148 53d97a8f atiocl64.dll 2.3.451.0 4cfd9adc c0000005 0000000000074fd0 1f40 01cfbcab67609480 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014\Photoshop.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Stream\bin\x86_64\atiocl64.dll a97d921d-289e-11e4-8e7d-e4115b508a14

                    Adobe: Thank you for the information.
                    Me: It's an AMD HD 6700 display

                    Adobe: It seems there is an issue with your Graphic Card Drivers.
                    Me: Well, yes

                    Me: But only with PS CC, so the problem is with PS

                    Me: I've updated the drivers

                    Me: This seems to be a common problem

                    Adobe: Please click on Start Button and type Device Manager and open Device Manager
                    Adobe: Once you have Device manager open, let me know
                    Me: Done

                    Adobe: Now please expand Display Adaptor option and right click on  AMD HD 6700 and Select Properties
                    Me: OK

                    Adobe: Then click on Drivers Tab
                    Adobe: Click on Disable
                    Adobe: Click on Okay
                    Adobe: Once you click on Okay, it will change your Screen resolution
                    Me: You bet it did!

                    Adobe: Now please launch Photoshop CC 2014 and let me know if you are able to launch Photoshop CC 2014 or getting same error.
                    Me: Error not happening

                    Adobe: Are you able to launch Photoshop CC 2014?
                    Me: Yes

                    Adobe: It means, issue is with Graphic Card drivers.
                    Me: Yes, I knew that

                    Adobe: I suggest you to contact Graphic Card drivers and check if you can re-install the drivers and use Photoshop CC 2014 with the Graphic Card
                    Me: SO... PS CC 2014 is incompatible with the AMD drivers?

                    Me: I've installed 4 versions already. I'm running the latest beta now

                    Adobe: Could you please provide me with Full name of the Graphic Card?
                    Me: AFAIK, PS CC2014 is the only program that causes this error

                    Me: AMD Radeon HD 6700

                    Adobe: Dan, issue is due to the Drivers, which are not compatible with Photoshop CC 2014.
                    Adobe: You may be able to use other products, however if drivers is not compatible with Photoshop CC 2014, you will not be able to use them with Photoshop CC 2014
                    Me: I think that you have that backwards. PS CC2014 is not compatible with the drivers. It is the only known program to have this problem. Well documented.

                    Adobe: Please contact Graphic Card provider and check for the drivers or re-install drivers and check.
                    Me: I did, and they blame Adobe

                    Adobe: Okay
                    Adobe: Photoshop CC 2014 is not compatible with the drivers you have for the Graphic Card, there might be issue with drivers.
                    Adobe: We have checked with the error logs as well., it show  Fault Module Name: atiocl64.dll 
                    Me: Again, PS CC 2014 is the only known program to clash with atiocl64.dll

                    Adobe: I can suggest you to check if you can use the product from new Account and use the product or check with Graphic Card provider for the drivers or a proper installation for Graphic Drivers.
                    Me: Again, I've done all of that

                    Me: They blame Adobe, and frankly, they are correct. The problem only happens with your product

                    Adobe: Please use different Graphic Card on your computer and check if you can use it with Photoshop CC 2014.
                    Adobe: You can follow below link to know more about supported Graphic Cards.
                    Adobe: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq1.html
                    Me: Can we elevate this to the next level, please?

                    Adobe: We have disabled Graphic Card drivers to check if you can launch the product and you were able to launch the product without using the Graphic Drivers.
                    Me: Yes.

                    Me: So PS CC 2014 will not work with this card?

                    Adobe: Issue is with Graphic Card drivers, we can use Product with graphic Card
                    Me: So PS CC 2014 will not work with this card?

                    Adobe: Photoshop CC 2014 is compatible with AMD/ATI Radeon, 6000 series.
                    Adobe: However you have issue with Graphic card drivers.
                    Me: No, Adobe has an issue. And I have an issue with Adobe.

                    info: Your chat transcript will be sent to dan@danzphoto.net at the end of your chat.

                    Me: And I'm not the first person to report it, either

                    <long pause>
                    Adobe: Please navigate to C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2014
                    Adobe: Locate sniffer folder and rename it ~sniffer.
                    Adobe: *Locate sniffer file and rename it ~sniffer.
                    Adobe: Before that, please re-enable your Graphic Drivers as well.
                    Adobe: Once you done that, let me know.
                    Me: No such folder. sniffer.exe is present, however

                    Adobe: *Locate sniffer file and rename it ~sniffer.
                    Adobe: Please rename  sniffer.exe to  ~sniffer.exe
                    Me: Done

                    Adobe: Just to confirm, if you have re-enabled your Graphic Drivers?
                    Me: Yes

                    Adobe: Now please re-launch Photoshop CC 2014 and check if you can launch it or same error.
                    Me: No error. Program loads and runs.

                    Adobe: Please close and re-run the product and check,
                    Adobe: * I mean, close and re-launch
                    Me: No error. Program loads and runs.

                    Adobe: Okay
                    Adobe: Sniffer file is related to Graphic Processor from Photoshop CC 2014.
                    Adobe: You can keep it renamed and use the product.
                    Me: What does sniffer.exe do and can I run PS CC 2014 without it?

                    Adobe: You will be able to use the product without any issue.
                    Me: I'm sorry that I had to push you for a solution

                    Adobe: However I will suggest you to re-check with Graphic Provider and see if they have any drivers which you can use with Photoshop CC 2014, since issue is related to the Graphic Processor.
                    Me: As of yesterday, they did not

                    Adobe: I am sorry for the Inconvenience.
                    Adobe: Is there anything else I can help you with?
                    Me: No, thank you. Hopefully, the problem is resolved.

                    Adobe: You will be able to use  the product, if any issue contact us back, we will check and help you accordingly
                    Adobe: You are most welcome.
                    Adobe: You may receive an email that will contain a link to complete an optional survey to provide your feedback on the support experience. Your feedback is very much appreciated.
                    Adobe: Thank you for contacting Adobe. Good Bye.

                    • 8. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                      Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                      Disabling sniffer just means that you are not testing the driver for problems, but the driver still has bugs.

                      Sniffer checks the driver for compatibility, and tests for known crashes so that Photoshop won't crash.

                      But in this case your driver was still crashing.

                      The only real solution is to update the driver to a version that doesn't contain crashing bugs.

                      • 9. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                        Woodsroad Community Member

                        "Sniffer checks the driver for compatibility, and tests for known crashes so that Photoshop won't crash."

                        And then it crashes PS CC.

                         

                        "The only real solution is to update the driver to a version that doesn't contain crashing bugs."

                        Of which...there isn't one.

                        Remember: This only happens with PS CC. So where does the problem lie? With Adobe or with AMD? As far as AMD is concerned, it's an Adobe problem. They are the only known problem.

                         

                        Anyway, PS CC seems to be running stable now that sniffer.exe isn't crashing it.

                        • 10. Re: creative cloud photoshop keeps crashing at start up any ideas why?
                          Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                          The problem lies in the driver code.

                          AMD knows about the problems in older drivers, and fixed them (ages ago, but some people failed to update).  But they don't know about problems in the current drivers, and need more information to see if they might have missed something.

                           

                          Sniffer is just checking for problems, it is not directly the cause of the problem.

                          For most other users, updating their video card drivers has solved the crashes.