no ideas ?
I was having a very similar problem. I wasn't able to solve the issue as such, but I did find that if I quit After Effects before attempting to render my PP timeline with the linked comps in it it worked just fine. The speediness we had pre-Mavericks returned.
Now, admittedly, this isn't a perfect solution. I mean, every time I want to make a change to one of the linked comps I need to re-open AE, make the change, then close it again, but it does let me finish rendering the project before I grow a long gray beard.
Definitely something to put forward to the powers that be.
Good luck and hope this helps!
I'm going to try it, I noticed that it isn't happening all the time. I think you shouldn't touch premiere at all when rendering. Yesterday I rendered two 15s ads with only one text layer that had different information. They both had the same dynamic link sequence and all the graphics and effects were the same. The first one rendered in 7 minutes, the second in 16 minutes ... I once thought it had to do with the cache folder that was growing to his limits but when I purged the cache it wasn't solved.
I have had some issues with render times and serveral slowdowns in premiere, after effects and encore after mavericks update, I found in other forums that the new feature called power nap was the problem, after disabling it, adobe prodcuts work like a charm. Go to your application folder, right click your app and check the option to disable power nap, tell me if it work for you.
You are the man! It made ma crazy, 3 minutes video were rendering for 3 hours. With one simple Dynamic link. Now it is way faster! Thanks a lot.
I'm was having the same issues, turned off "app nap" for premiere and after effects which has mostly fixed things.
The only thing now though is if I have a dynamic linked after effects composition within premiere and I have the after effects project open (that the composition came from) the dynamic linked comp within premiere won't play properly no matter what.
Tried everything I can find on the net - app nap, full screen full res rendering within after effects - that composition just won't play and take ages to render if the after effects project that it came from is open.
If I close the after effects project, the dynamically linked composition in premiere starts playing perfectly. Open the project in after effects and that dynamically linked comps stop playing. Any other dynamically linked comps from other AE sessions play fine within premiere (unless I open their original AE project!)
This used to work fine before - it was great to be able to have AE and premiere open together and make changes in AE then switch to premiere to see the changes update, watch the sequence to get context, then flick back to AE, make more changes etc.
Now I have to close the AE project, go to premiere, watch the sequence, open the AE project, make changes. When doing a few hundred adjustments over a week this can add considerable time to workflow!
Any ideas? Is this happening for you guys?
Go to your application folder, right click your app and check the option to disable power nap, tell me if it work for you.
A slightly better (IMHO) way to do it is to disable that crappy "feature" globally. Not just per application. Pop open a Terminal window, and
defaults write -g NSAppSleepDisabled -bool true
It'll ask for your password and it's safe to enter it. Once you do that, it should be disabled globally. You may need to re-run that when you patch the OS, such as jumping from 10.9.4 to 10.9.5 when it comes out.
Good idea. I just also did a small software update. (from Mavericks to Mavericks) and even this features was disabled for Premiere and all Adobe softwares, it came back enabled. Strange, so I will use the global trick.
App nap does not fix the issue I mentioned above, I've tried preventing App Nap manually per app and disabling globally using the terminal command, the issue above still stands.
I have two workstations here both having the same issues and both can play PP sequences with dynamically linked AE comps in full res with 0 dropped frames.
If I open the After Effects project where that AE comp came from, I get about 400 dropped frames playing around 20 seconds in PP and extremely slow responsiveness & render times.
Can you guys test this scenario to see if you're having the same issues?
Hi guys, I have been having the same issue and this is how i fixed mine. I went to sequence settings and switched on Maximum render quality, then I went to preferences, Memory and changed optimise rendering for: Memory instead of the default (performance).
Restarted premiere cc and now i can play back and quickly render after effects files smoothly on the timeline.
Im using Mercury playback engine on my macbook pro.
I hope this helps you my friend.
Unfortunately this does not fix the problem I've mentioned above.
I changed the settings you mentioned - switched on Maximum render quality under sequence settings and Changed optimise rendering for: Memory under the memory preferences.
Then I did a very simple test, maybe you could do the same and let me know if you have issues.
- With After Effects closed, import a 15 second AE comp into premiere through Dynamic Link and put into the timeline.
- Play the timeline for the full 15 seconds - result: 0 dropped frames
- Open After Effects and load the project that the AE comp comes from
- Go back to Premiere and play the same timeline for the full 15 seconds - result: 275 dropped frames
I'm using a 12 core custom built computer with 32gb ram 4.6ghz overclocked and have also tried on the new 6 core mac pro - same result.
Still not resolved, anyone else with the same issue?
How would anyone get a Power Nap option when right clicking an application in the finder?? This answer does not seem correct to me or am I missing something?
thank you for spelling that out...i couldn't find it either.
After Effects CC 2014 doesn't have the "Prevent App Nap" switch and the Terminal command seems to have no effect. This is really holding up my projects that worked fine in CC.
This problem has got worse with the 2014.1 update. I now get more dropped frames, the playhead is sometimes unresponsive for a few seconds when working on sequences with dynamic link comps and comps also go offline when I close my AE project in order to be able to play back sequences in Premiere.
I was hoping the update would bring bug fixes and improvements to workflows, so far it seems to be a different colour scheme and fancy markers.
I completely agree. The update is horrible. I've wasted a complete week trying to cope, but I can't. So unsatisfying.
What is the go with this? The new update is still more unstable than the previous version when using dynamic link. I have to deal with this every day and I would love an update on when this will be addressed.
This is y I did not upgrade pp or Ae after upgrading to Yosemite. It seems stable to me with pp 2014.0.1. It ain't broke now so I ain't fixing it.
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Same here, the dynamic link is worse and worse each release. If my AE is open, I can't render or play Premiere seq with linked AE seqs more for a year now. What Adobe beta testers do?
Do you release these versions for the shareholders or for the artists?
I lost my hope for the future of Adobe workflow. The fixes take ages and every new fix brings more bugs.
It's supposed to be fixed with After Effects CC 2014.1 (13.1). If it is not working for you, please file a bug here: http://adobe.ly/ReportBug
More info on the topic: Slow rendering of After Effects compositions in Premiere Pro sequences
Thank you, seems to work much better after disabling app nap in Mavericks with:
defaults write -g NSAppSleepDisabled -bool true
App nap does not fix the problem for me and many people I know, the 13.1 update did not fix the problem, I cannot play back sequences in Premiere with dynamic link comps at a reasonable frame rate. The update actually introduced another problem that when you close AE after working with a dynamic link composition the composition will go offline, are you aware of this?
Agreed - I've disabled App nap and it does nothing fix this problem.
Disabling App Nap did not fix my long rendering problem. I decided to look at the Activity Monitor and noticed that the multi processor files were jumping around a lot. I went into Preferences > Memory and Multiprocessors and turned off Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously and BAM! I was back to rendering things in a timely fashion.
This issue has caused me a lot of wasted time rendering. Hopefully this solution will help others.
Well I personally don't know any AE user, who uses multiprocessing. It never worked like it should, it always caused only problems, It starts too long and then it often hangs.
I think this is because multiprocessing is not a native function in AE, it just work outside the main core.
(Can we switch multiprocessing on and off in Nuke, DaVinci, Flame? We can't)
So maybe this is the reason, why disabling App nap worked for me, because my multiprocessing was always off.
It is a business. It is much easier to sell new tools and new UI, then invest to a new better working not buggy core.
Sometimes I think we should switch off everything to be happy :-)
It is indeed app nap that is causing the problems. If you open activity monitor and add the 'app nap' view in the monitor you will see that AE has it still activated. I have tried everything to turn it off but it clearly is still running and not allowing PR to communicate with AE and therefore render a dynamic linked sequence.
Well, for me anyway, this is still an issue. The 2014.1 update did not fix the problem, AE still has NO App Nap checkbox and my renders are still painfully slow with AE open. I even upgraded to Yosemite to see if that would help. No dice. Still the same issue.
Strangely, what DOES fix the problem is this:
1. Start the render in PP.
2. When it inevitably slows down, Command-Tab over to AE, just so that it comes to the forefront momentarily.
3. Tab back to PP and wait for it to slow down.
4. Tickle AE again.
5 Repeat steps 3 & 4 until the render is done.
I have done everything that you, and the official company line, suggest. I even broke into the package contents for AE and PP to disable App Nap in those, hoping it'd help. No luck. The terminal command to turn off App Nap has also not worked for me.
This is a royal drag. Clearly, judging by the threads I'm seeing, I'm not the only one with this problem. What gives?
why are you guys still on mavericks? i think it must have been the biggest buggiest failure of all the mac OS's. When i upgraded to yosemite all of my probs went away. i now can use the hardware render engine and the system almost never crashes except yesterday when my click-happy intern was clicking madly in Magic Bullet looks and the thing just short circuited, but we use after fx daily with dynamic linking from the timeline without flaw.
Yes, we used to suffer from all of these problems. i say get off the mav and get on the yosemite!
Upgraded to Yosemite. Mac Pro bug still not resolved. Its been about 6 months this bug has been reported.
I am having similar issues, as well as content crashing of Premiere when dealing with AE dynamic link within Premiere project.
Ya if I try to export a project with any AE media it freezes. This was not the case last week. What happened.?
I seem to have found some success reducing crashing by changing my sequence settings. Video Previews>Quicktime. Code: Apple ProRes 422.