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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 14, 2014 8:05 AM (in response to cc_merchant)This is what I'm considering:
Power: 1050W Seasonic 80PLUS Gold Power Supply Motherboard: ASUS, Rampage IV Extreme, 2011, SATA6, True Quad SLI/XFIRE, Extreme OC Capable CPU: Intel Core i7-4960X 3.60GHz, 2133MHz DDR3, 15MB Cache, Hex Core Processor System Memory: 16GB (4 x 4GB) , PC3-19200, 2400MHz (G.Skill - x79) Video Adapter 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780ti 3GB GDDR5 Video Adapter 2: None Optical 1 16X Blu-ray Burner - 16xBD-R, 2xBD-RW/16xDVD-R, 8xDVD-RW/48xCD-R, 24xCD-RW Bay Accessories 1 NZXT Aperture M Multi-media Hub RAID [Requires Identical Hard Drive Selections] RAID 0 | 2 Disk Min. Striped set, improved performance, additional storage drive highly recommended Hard Drive 1 Crucial M550 1TB 2.5" SATA III 6GB/sec Solid State Drive Hard Drive 2 Crucial M550 1TB 2.5" SATA III 6GB/sec Solid State Drive Hard Drive 3 Crucial M550 1TB 2.5" SATA III 6GB/sec Solid State Drive Sound Card Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z PCI Express -
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John T Smith Sep 14, 2014 8:27 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)I just built a new computer, see reply 6 for my final hardware list Samsung 840 Pro SSD to become Sata6 ???
After some advice, I went with a Samsung 840 Pro for boot/software and Crucial M550 for my 3 data drives
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 14, 2014 8:39 AM (in response to John T Smith)Do you believe that SSD drives, then, are going to be reliable enough? I've heard lots of people say that they fail, but these hard drives are newer, so I don't know.
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cc_merchant Sep 14, 2014 9:54 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)Reliable, yes.
Costly per GB, yes.
You can forget about a 3 disk raid0 on that mobo, because you only have two SATA 6G ports on the Intel, one of which should be used for OS & programs on a single 120+ GB SSD, and two SATA 6G ports on the Marvell and they can't be mixed. Additionally, the Marvell ports are pretty slow. If you use three SATA 3G ports for a raid0, you downgrade the SSD performance by a factor 2.
In terms of preference for SSD's:
- Samsung 850 Pro
- Samsung 840 Pro
- Corsair M550
For conventional HDD's, look at enterprise disks, designed for 24/7 operation and with a large cache from HGST (Ultrastar), Seagate (Constellation ES) or WD (RE4).
Next step: Upgrade memory to 32 GB and forget about a SB audio card. Use on-board sound.
If you want a really fast disk setup, consider this:
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 14, 2014 11:00 AM (in response to cc_merchant)I don't have nearly that much money to spend, but thanks for the recommendation. 24 hard drives is more than enough, I'm probably looking to use around 3 or 4 now that I've learned a little more.
It was 2 eSATA 6G ports. It says that is has 4 SATA 6G ports. Did you mean it won't work because it only has 2 eSATA, or will it work because it does have 4 SATA 6G?
Here're the specs:
Also, what makes 850 Pro better than 840 Pro? You placed 850 above, but for what reason?
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cc_merchant Sep 14, 2014 11:15 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)AnandTech | Samsung SSD 850 Pro (128GB, 256GB & 1TB) Review: Enter the 3D Era
The problem is that the X79 chipset only supports 2 SATA 6G ports. All additional SATA 6G ports use a different controller, not part of the chipset. For the SATA 6G ports internally, 3 and 4, a Marvell controller is used. For the eSATA 6G ports, 5 and 6, again another controller is used. These ports can not be used for raid configurations where multiple controllers are used. Only configurations where all the ports are on the same controller.
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Bill Gehrke Sep 14, 2014 11:22 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)The Samsung 850 Pro is a new generation which is designed for longer life.
While you may have have four SATA 6Gb/s ports they are not on the same controller chip so they cannot be used to create a RAID array
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 14, 2014 11:37 AM (in response to Bill Gehrke)I see. I have one other question that's confused me for a while.
What is the importance of the "Video Adapter?"
Here's a list of some I have to choose from, but I really don't know what difference it makes and HOW they affect the performance of the computer, if they even do.
AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5
AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780ti 3GB GDDR5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Black 6GB GDDR5
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 8GB GDDR5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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Bill Gehrke Sep 14, 2014 11:50 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)Take a look at Harm's pages
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JFPhoton Sep 14, 2014 7:48 PM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway).....HELLO !!!....HELLO!!!....haven't you read that the NEW Intel Haswell E chip is out !!! Right here on this forum Eric Bowen has posted test results comparing it to the previous CPUs, and it blows them away !! The new X99 chipset provides TEN on board SATA III 6gbits/sec ports for making a very fast RAID setup of SSDs !!
Crucial M550 series SSDs are cheaper than the slightly better Samsung 850 Pro series......and these SSDs are WAY more reliable than any spinning mechanical hard drive ! FORGET AMD video cards.....NVidia ONLY provides the CUDA acceleration used by PPro in their "Mercury Playback Engine" A new NVidia card is coming out...the 980, ( originally was going to be the 880), which may have 8GB of video memory. A 770 with 4GB memory would not be a bad place to start. Read more about ALL the components of an editing PC,...esp. the POWER SUPPLY and COOLING. Concerning those SSDs that were suggested, they are currently the ONLY ones you would want to consider....other cheaper Sandforce controlled SSDs are NOT recommended !!
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blademanrocks Sep 16, 2014 3:31 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)with X99 mobo, does the chip set no longer bottleneck at 1.5Gb/s like the X79? Wouldn't 3 ASUS ROG RAZR 240GB PCIe SSDs get you faster RAID 0?
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cc_merchant Sep 16, 2014 4:42 AM (in response to blademanrocks)I would never consider an ASUS SSD, especially not with a Sandforce controller.
Better look at Ultrastar SN100 Series PCIe SSD | HGST Storage . Better capacity and much faster.
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 20, 2014 7:53 PM (in response to cc_merchant)After reading the following:
http://ppbm7.com/index.php/tweakers-page/92-what-video-card-to-use
I'm still somewhat confused. I'm not really sure what the advantages of using two Video Adapters are and if the Geforce GTX 980 is going to be any better than the Geforce GTX 780 listed in the charts.
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cc_merchant Sep 21, 2014 1:33 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)Did you look at Tweakers Page - Exporting Style
There the situations where the GPU kicks in are explained.
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Bill Gehrke Sep 21, 2014 1:39 PM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)I sure do not understand the GTX 980. Here are the important characteristics that I see for MPE GPU Hardware Acceleration for the GTX 980 and the GTX 780
GTX 980, 2048 CUDA cores, 224 GB/second memory bandwidth
GTX 780, 2304 CUDA cores, 288 GB/second memory bandwidth
Why would anyone buy one except for 1GB more video RAM on the standard designs?
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cc_merchant Sep 22, 2014 12:11 AM (in response to Bill Gehrke)Check out AnandTech | The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Review: Maxwell Mark 2 and you will see that, even though memory bandwidth decreased, the 3rd generation color compression, the increase in ROP ratio from 8:1 to 16:1, the increase to 64 ROPs, the increase to 2 MB L2 cache and the significantly higher GPU clock speed all lead to a significant performance gain, but practical benchmarks must tell us if that also applies to PR.
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 22, 2014 1:13 PM (in response to cc_merchant)Are you referring to Premiere Pro when you say PR?
Also, since I'm new here, is there a list of commonly used abbreviations?
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Bill Gehrke Sep 22, 2014 5:20 PM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)Yes, that is what cc_merchant is referring to. Adobe uses Pr in the desktop icon but I do not know of any help on this forum's common abbreviations.
Incidentally, I did dig out one major advantage for the GTX 980, power. The new Maxwell based GTX 980 uses only 165 watts while its predecessor the GTX 780 uses 250 watts!
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 23, 2014 6:03 PM (in response to Bill Gehrke)Yeah, apart from the money you might save in the lesser power usage, I still don't know if GTX 980 is going to be that much more practical for Premiere Pro and After Effects over the 780. Basically, this is my main question, just from what any of you know right now, because despite all my reading, I certainly don't know:
Do you think that the 980 could potentially offer worse (not necessarily significantly worse, but just somewhat) performance with Pr and Ae than the 780? Or, considering everything else, would you assume that it will probably be better, but only minimally? I really just don't know.
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JFPhoton Sep 23, 2014 7:22 PM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway).....if you would like to spend BIG MONEY.......I can sell you my " state of the art" Quantum Bigfoot hard drive, ( as pictured below ) It only weighs about TWO POUNDS, and takes up a MINISCULE amount of real estate because its ONLY FIVE AND A QUARTER INCHES WIDE !!! We're now talking SERIOUS performance here !!!!.....just because it needs ITS OWN POWER SUPPLY doesn't mean it can't BLAZE through data with the BEST of them !!!! Make me an offer " I can't refuse" and this baby COULD BE YOURS !!!

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Bill Gehrke Sep 24, 2014 8:35 AM (in response to wastingyourlifeaway)I would like to believe that the GTX 980 will work better with Premiere MPE hardware acceleration than the GTX 780. Fortunately Eric from ADK will shortly be receiving his first shipment. and promises to let the forum know.
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wastingyourlifeaway Sep 25, 2014 6:56 PM (in response to Bill Gehrke)Hmm, okay. So then, I suppose that I should ask the question:
What are some of the more common Motherboards used with RAID setups for Pr and Ae?






