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1. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
areohbee Sep 19, 2014 10:51 PM (in response to Emily SW)Basic sliders were changed in Lr4 as part of a new process version 2012.
They take some getting used to, but most people (after some time on the learning curve) consider them an improvement.
Note - there is really no equivalent mapping of old to new, but these things might help you get started:
Lr3: PV2012
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Fill: +exposure -highlights +shadows
Recovery: -highlights
Brightness: +exposure -highlights
You can also look around the net for tutorials - there are many.., here's one:
Lightroom 5 - Free Quick Start Guide PDF eBook | The Lightroom Queen
And this forum (and the Lr4 beta forum) has lotsa info about it too, e.g.
Which do you prefer: Increasing exposure or adjusting the tone curve?
PS - If you want the old sliders back, then choose Process Version 2010 (e.g. in Camera Calibration section of develop module).
Rob
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2. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
Emily SW Sep 20, 2014 10:07 AM (in response to areohbee)Thanks very much. That is helpful. I liked using the "fill" for people in shadow, in front of bright backgrounds. Maybe I will choose Process Version 2010 when I need it. I wonder why they would get rid of that slider.
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3. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
Bob Somrak Sep 20, 2014 10:31 AM (in response to Emily SW)Emily SW wrote:
I wonder why they would get rid of that slider.
Probably because the new sliders work WAY better. I think once you get used to PV 2012 you will forget about using PV 2010 and the fill slider. Just start by using Rob's suggestions on Fill, Recovery and Brightness and it will get you started.
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4. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
Emily SW Sep 20, 2014 10:35 AM (in response to Bob Somrak)I will try it for sure! Thanks!
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5. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
RikkFlohr Sep 20, 2014 11:44 AM (in response to Emily SW)The old tools you are looking for are crude by comparison to the new tools in LR 4 and beyond. Invest the time to learn them and never go back to the LR3 and older tools and you will be rewarded with much better editing results.
Fill light was an abomination.
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6. Re: I just upgraded from LR3 to LR 5 and my recovery and fill light tools are gone. Can someone help? Also, I can't find the brightness tool
areohbee Sep 20, 2014 9:37 PM (in response to Emily SW)Emily SW wrote:
I wonder why they would get rid of that slider.
Lr3's fill light was indeed a hard act to follow (in my opinion). Often after I get done with multiple adjustments in PV2012, the net result is about what Lr3's fill light did.
But the bottom line is you can accomplish "filling" with PV2012 too, and usually the results are better, even if somewhat different.
Hint: if you try and try to make a photo look as good in PV2012 as it did in PV2010, but it seems like you can't, try sleeping on it - sometimes in the morning the PV2012 one will look better. The moral of the story: sometimes we're attached to a particular look, and anything different is perceived as inferior. Lr3 fill had a characteristic look which was sometimes very "charming" (for lack of a better word), but PV2012's controls maintain truer color and more accurate tonal relationships (when properly adjusted). Some people built their entire photography style around the unique quality of Lr3 fill, and absolutely freaked out when it was not reproducible in PV2012. But if your objective is to fill shadows and brighten a photo, in the best quality fashion - there is no contest: PV2012 wins (again: that's my opinion).
Another secret to PV2012 "fill": don't be afraid to use -highlights even if the highlights weren't over-bright to begin with. PV2012 often requires +exposure along with +shadows to properly brighten the darker areas, which usually must be accompanied by -highlights to keep from over-brightening the lighter areas. If you find yourself using too much -highlights and +shadows, try turning contrast down, and maybe add clarity/vib/sat to maintain the punch (and/or drop the blacks).
Cheers,
Rob



