How to change new Blue font color back to old Yellow font color?

Hi Geronimosan,

Sorry, you can't "change it back" in this version. It is not a trivial task to allow that option as a preference either, unfortunately. Please let the team know about your difficulties here: http://adobe.ly/ReportBug

Thanks,

Kevin

Hi Geronimosan,

Thanks for your candid response. I will definitely let the team know about how you feel. I urge you to also write a bug report, as mentioned in an earlier thread. Hopefully, we can get something done about this as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Kevin

I agree with Geronimosan's eloquent response 100%. I thought it was just ugly at first but now I find that the longer you look at it, the harder it is to read. It starts to blend in with the BG, and I after a while I have trouble keeping it in focus.

The yellow was perfect AND was aesthetically pleasing.

(& yes, I did write a "bug"report...)

Hi Geronimosan,

We had used a brighter blue earlier in our beta cycle, but were told by some of our beta testers that it was too bright, so we dialed it back.

Please try adjusting your Appearance preference's Brightness slider to a lighter gray background color and see if that helps you. This also brightens up the blue a bit.

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

Ah ha..."the man" at last! 

May I ask ....what was behind  the design logic and rationale to make this change "out of the blue" ?

Sorry to be harsh ...but I dont think you will get any design awards for it ..and the "experience" sux.

Hi ?

I’m not “the man”, but one of a group of designers who work on Adobe’s DVA products.

Blue has become a UI standard that indicates interaction (e.g.: links, URLs, etc..). We’ve used amber for many years, and while some were satisfied with that color choice, others felt it made our applications seem old and dated. Over the past year, when showing early mockups to customers, and later, working builds, we received a lot of positive feedback mostly along the lines of “newer, cleaner, fresh, more modern, etc..”. While feedback hasn’t been 100% positive (change is rarely universally accepted), the vast majority of feedback to date has. We made UI tweaks during our beta cycle and will continue to monitor public feedback now that it’s out in the wild.

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

Thank  you for responding David

Blue has become a UI standard that indicates interaction (e.g.: links, URLs, etc..).

Works great on a white BG. Sux on grey. Vile on black.

Strange rationale that numerical parameters that a user needs to interact with extensively...more than just a "click" ...are considered the same interaction..

“newer, cleaner, fresh, more modern, etc..”.

Would a designer write a word document in blue text  on grey / black?  Red on grey/ black .....because its "modern and fresh?

the vast majority of feedback to date has.

I blame the democratisation of professional products for that claim. 

How long before this is a "big button" application!

the vast majority of feedback to date has.

As a full CC customer, I really wish someone would have asked me for MY feedback as to whether or not I would like to have something that really should be a preference setting, changed and forced upon me. Other's may very well find it "fresh & modern", but I find it very difficult to read, and extremely ugly (in AE as well, obviously). Now I'm not speaking for everyone, it's just my personal taste, which is why I would like to have the option to change it back to the yellow which I really liked and found very easy to read. In AE  you can choose from literally a billion colors for your grid lines (which I rarely use), but the highlight color wallpapering the entire interface, that you stare at every second that you are working, is chosen for me and locked down.

I'm sorry but this makes absolutely no sense

FWIW - I like it.

MtD

FWIW - I like it.

Dogs see  the world at  a different wavelength in the light spectrum.

ROYGBV

The back end.

Geronimo!

I nominate you for the Adobe Experience Design Team.

"Geronimo!

I nominate you for the Adobe Experience Design Team."

I second that nomination...

Why is it that we live in a world where we need to modernize everything? The new interface is "fresh and modern" I'm really sorry but just because you change a colour that does not automatically make it fresh or modern. Companies use the term "fresh and modern" way too much these days, when what they are really saying is "It's just different, and annoying" The real problem I have is that a vast majority of Pro users are on the Creative Cloud monthly payment plan and pretty much will have no choice but to update at some point in the future, if not today, next year. And unless this "fresh and modern" version is fixed, we will be forced to use it! It gives me an instant headache just looking at the screen shots.

Thanks. Mark.

David Kuspa wrote:

 

We had used a brighter blue earlier in our beta cycle, but were told by some of our beta testers that it was too bright, so we dialed it back.

 

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

David,

Thanks for chiming in here in this thread. For what it's worth, I am a former "light appearance" user. As in light background and dark letters. Dark always looked cooler for sure, but I sort of had to do the light appearance because after 50 hours a week editing my eyes would just go fuzzy with white letters on dark background. Looks like that's not around. Okay, so I just spent my first evening with the new 8.1 and it does look nice. Many tabs and icons stand out and look cooler than ever before. The dark blue numbers were very difficult to discern on the dark background. HOWEVER, if you change the appearance to the lightest it can go (which I'll have to live with...again, looks cool but time will tell if my eyes will handle it)...when it's at it's lightest, the numbers of the TIMECODE on the timeline and the Viewer go to a lighter blue. That, to me is MUCH easier to read and not too bright at all. However, strangely the numbers within the settings of an effect do NOT go lighter in color like the timecode does. This hopefully changes. It stays that same dark blue and is VERY difficult to read. I hope this changes.

David Kuspa wrote:

 

Please try adjusting your Appearance preference's Brightness slider to a lighter gray background color and see if that helps you. This also brightens up the blue a bit.

 

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

This above is what I'm referring to. The blue within an effect's settings do NOT brighten up as you mentioned. See pic below and you tell me what's easier to read: The "50%" or the "41:04" of the timecode? (This is on the lightest background setting) To my eyes, the timecode is WAY easier to read.

I really wish they BOTH changed colors and became lighter because the brighter blue is MUCH more readable to my eyes. I'm mid-30s pretty good eye sight by the way, but I do use Premiere 50-60 hours a week so hopefully this non-change is an oversight and not done on purpose and can be adjusted in the future. If you won't go yellow, or whatever people are asking for, and the users that preferred black letters on light background are now out of luck, I hope that you'll at least optimize the colors to all be brighter at the lightest background setting. Thanks for your time.

modern and fresh - maybe, but it's unusable for me. I'm in my 50's so my eyesight is not at it's prime, and I simply can't use this.

I've had to revert back to the previous version.

A very poor design decision IMHO.

Agree with much of this thread.  UI updates, just for the sake of appearance, should be a choice left to the user.  Regardless, PPro 8.1 is unstable and I rolled everything back to fix it.

To roll back using Adobe CC Manager (don't try a system restore, it will trash the install):

Install a previous version of any Creative Cloud application

Ah..thanks for the rollback info, was just looking for that. PPro & AE are both going back to previous versions. Mainly because of the blue UI highlighting. As bad as it is in PPro, it's 10 times worse in AE since there's so much more of it.

The option to choose would have shown much more consideration towards your customers Adobe.

Whoever is making these design decisions is trying too hard to be new and fresh and different.

Amen. I used to enjoy opening Premiere Pro.

Also, the Photoshop and other design teams felt no need to be that fresh.

David,

Props to you for putting your name on the line! I apologize that you are getting roasted on this forum, but constructively my initial thoughts were grim. I've brightened the default appearance, and that has helped me.

I suggest to all of us providing feedback that we revisit this forum in a week and see how our experience is. My response was after 2 minutes of use, but I'm curious to see how this impacts my eyes after a 40 our week on the computer.

2 iMac 27 in monitor's is what I use.

Thanks again for the quick responses to feedback and genuine attempts at pleasing your massive buying base. I will say the project management additions to this are absolutely massive to our workflow.

Keep up the good work.

AKChannel,

Thanks for your kind words. You can’t develop software for a passionate and loyal group of users without having a thick skin. Many existing users are very resistant to change, so there are bound to be some negative reactions. But we do solicit feedback from users and take this into consideration, making adjustments along the way. We’ll continue to monitor feedback and make additional tweaks if necessary—and that applies to all features, new and old.

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

David Kuspa wrote:

 

AKChannel,

 

Thanks for your kind words. You can’t develop software for a passionate and loyal group of users without having a thick skin. Many existing users are very resistant to change, so there are bound to be some negative reactions. But we do solicit feedback from users and take this into consideration, making adjustments along the way. We’ll continue to monitor feedback and make additional tweaks if necessary—and that applies to all features, new and old.

 

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

David - I agree with a previous post that I'll have to wait and see after editing on it for 30-40 hours straight to really see how I feel but hopefully my earlier post in response to your "lighten up the background will brighten up the blue" can be considered as it does brighten up the blue on the TIMECODE which is great and MUCH more legible, but for some reason the blue of effect's settings stay dark blue and hard to read. Hopefully the brighter blue can be applied to everything which would be more consistent and again, much easier to read in my opinion. See the screen shot from post #16 above to see how much easier it is to view the light blue and how the settings don't change to that lighter blue for some reason. Thanks again David for chiming in here.

Geronimosan,

We starting getting feedback on our UI redesign about 18 months ago, with user studies for a group of both Premiere and After Effect users. Since then, we’ve given previews to customers around the world during customer visits and in our prerelease programs (about 200 beta testers in Premiere’s), where professional users get early exposure to new features and provide feedback and submit bug reports. As I said in another post, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We also got excellent reviews from attendees at the recent IBC Conference. I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings since you're entitled to your own views, but we do make an effort to solicit feedback on new features and changes going into the application from many different sources--both before and after public release.

David Kuspa | Adobe | Sr. Experience Designer, Digital Video & Audio

Many existing users are very resistant to change, so there are bound to be some negative reactions.

I have seen many , many changes in Premiere since it was a beta version (way back then).

Credit has been  given where credit is due to the many excellent changes and developments over the years.

It  is not a curmudgeonly "resistance to change" that gets a "negative reaction as you are generalising.

Not all changes have  been so successful and got reactions and got dumped..

Many long time users wonder why certain "feature creep" changes are made over and above long standing, well discussed issues.

I would consider the out of the "blue" to be one of these. 

I'll be the first to say I'm resistant to change. We dropped FCP after Apple let customers know that they didn't care to support their professional user base.

That said, it is my opinion Adobe has made tremendous efforts to listen to their customers. I've had my frustrations with their software, but our company keeps spending 3 monthly subscriptions because they let us know they listen to us. They've shown that here today as well. 

Shooternz, let's call this what it is: a color palette to the appearance of their products. I'm not saying I'm a fan of it, but let's give it a week, edit a project on it, and then see if it's as bad as we're saying. If it continues to become a nuisance, then I think we should submit a feature request. If it's honestly so god-awful that our retinas are bleeding while editing, then I'm sure we can pursue other companies that are more conservative with their innovations.

I don't mean to attack just you—I'm not a fan of this change—but I am suggesting we all hold our tongues just a bit before giving David, or anyone, a lashing.

My two cents.

"May all your clients be good enough to appreciate your skill, or blind enough to ignore your lack of it."

I am not really giving David a lashing.

Just having a dialogue similar to the ones I have with my clients.  Art Directors  and Creative Directors.

Colors and hues ,typefaces , font size and positioning  are a regular discussion with the outcome generally getting to be readability as well as aesthetic factors.

The "blue:" wont stop me using Premiere at all. I dont feel that strongly about it!

I probably feel more strongly about the Adobe Application Icons on my desktop which give no idea of "versioning"  and appear to be very dated.

Here are other threads people have started on this exact same topic:

Just "very resistant to change" knuckle-draggers whose "negative reactions" are to be expected. Doesn't mean anything.

Alley Oop

David,

Again, thanks for jumping on here. As you might expect, I'm also not ... thrilled ... with the choice. And as a few points have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it's a very ... puzzling ... change. It seems by your comments that the only reason your team chose this was to be "fresh" and "new". Not because of any complaints from the users.

Now let's look at this change in two respects ... both the VAST amount of UI/graphic-design work that's been done. I have never seen in any of the probably thousands of pages I've read on this over the last twenty years a single comment that *thin* dark blue text against a black or charcoal background is a good thing in any sense whatever. It's the kind of thing that has been rather castigated, actually. It makes the user hunt & work at it, and considering all the other choices I simply don't understand that you ignored all the UI studies and went with a ... well ... rather amateurish decision process. I'd have expected your design team to actually be on the cutting edge of human visual interactions, not completely ignoring all the data out there.

But worse ... in my view, is the absolute lack of attention to the physiology of the thing. I've been involved in color darkroom work, custom printing, and then digital reproductions at a high professional level for 40 years now. My eyes have been tested many times for color sensitivity & accuracy ... especially since the people doing the testing found me oddly capable for a male of whatever age I was tested at. So I've had quite a few conversations with professionals in human eye sensitivities.

Most men have a notable (measurable) lack of ... perceived? ... saturation in the darker range of blues. It's why blue (and particularly darker blue) is such a part of so many color acuity tests. What happens to their visual perception? Darker blues desaturate and become indistinguishable from a dark gray/charcoal patch. Many men of younger age who can handle this ok will lose this ability through their 40's. Occasionally you'll have some fully or near color-blind person in other colors, but the dark blues is a very common problem area.

Let's see ... your user base, is ... what, precisely?

Ahh ... that would be ... males, realistically. And further, many of our professional peers are in the 40+ category. Which is why so many of the respondents here, the long-time pros, are having visual problems & headaches from working with this. Your comments that you simply hope they can become used to it is similar to telling a near-deaf person they should just listen harder, with the implication that you don't really know or care what their actual problem is, and they'll be ok if they just work at it. Does that sound a bit ... well, even ... rude?

I can work with this still ... but it does drastically slow me down as even I have to LOOK at something rather than just do a quick visual scan. I've not had any headaches or such ... but then I only do a couple hours a day at this and my eyes are a heck of a lot more capable than the majority of my male peers. But it is disturbing to have this change done simply to be "fresh" and "modern" when it violates all UI design research & advice, goes against the physiological capabilities of your user base, and slows down the working process for a goodly number. Besides those for whom, realistically, you've created a program that they ... physically ... can no longer use.

And not because any of us users demanded it, but just to be "fresh" and "modern" looking. Not because it had any positive working effect whatever.

Just a very bizarre design process.

Most Sincerely,

R. Neil Haugen

As with many others within this discussion and other threads I have found, the new "blue" interface colour is a step backward. I have never had any problems working all day on AE or PP in the past, but

yesterday after about 2 hours on the "new blue" AE… it became harder to see and more annoying. I found I had to squint to see the property values, keyframes etc.

Ok I'm getting older and my eye sight is not as good as it was when I first used AE (It was called CoAa After Effects 1.0 back then!…who remembers that?)  however as mentioned I never had this problem with the "yellow".

Blue on dark grey may be "Cool" or "Fresh" or "Smoke like"… but legibility / usability should be paramount… no?

To the Adobe engineers, please give your loyal users the option to change it … and again we can enjoy creating wonderful work.

Cheers

Really? Those people obviously didn't sit in front of the new UI for several hours at a time and actually use the software. It's absolutely awful, way too contrasty and distracting. Please bring back the old UI.

So agreed ... this slows me down and what's to my personality worse ... I had LOVED working in Speedgrade ... I'd find reasons to spend time in it. It's not something that I do for my only job, but something I do ti get the REST of my work out. Working at reading the UI just takes so much of the sheer fun out of it. Sadly.

PrPro ... well, I spend more time there than SpeedGrade but it's not time I 'love' but time that I need to spend. Now even that is a bit slower and far more drudge drudge WORK.

And this, recall, from a guy that's got eyeballs a heck of a lot more suited to dark blue against charcoal than the average bear.

Neil

hello David.

please address the issues brought up in this thread as well

as it has reached 49 comments and counting with vast majority of

negative criticism (some even well defined with screenshots)  about the new UI changes

from relatively new users and some well known ones alike.

please include that in your search for proper feedback around the forums.