Crop PDF pages

I just signed up for a trial of Adobe Acrobat XI prior to purchasing it.  I think I love this product.  It was so easy to scan to a pdf file.  My question is that the paper size of the document I scanned is 8 1/2 by 11 and the scan size appears to be 8 1/2 by 14.  How do I change the pages to the proper size and eliminate the large bottom margin?

You can crop the pages.

Use the Crop tool. Tools > Pages > Crop. Drag out the crop area, then double-click to bring up the Crop dialog.

As with photoshop is there a way to crop and delete instead of only cropping and hiding the data? I would like to delete the cropped information permanently. Is there an option to do this and if not are they looking to add this option in future editions?

Deleting information permanently (but not shrinking the page) is done with the redaction feature.

You can also permanently crop using a fixup in the Preflight tool. (Tools > Print Production).

Do you happen to know what the keyboard shortcut for that dialog is in Acrobat XI Pro?  It was CtrShiftT in previous versions of Acrobat Pro, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.  I used it dozens of times a day in my PDF workflow and now miss it dearly.  Thanks!

The C key.

Thanks for the reply, but more specifically I'm trying to bring up the Set Page Boxes dialog.  The "C" key does not do this. 

Use C (crop tool) to create a starting crop area. Double-click in crop area opens dialog box. Refine in the dialog box.  I use this all the time.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I'm trying to find the keyboard ONLY shortcut only to open the dialog without using the mouse. The shortcut in previous versions was Ctr+Shift+T.

For years I had became very acustomed to doing it this way because I didn't need to take my hands off the keyboard to grab my stylus pen and then try to double-click without accidentaly dragging and creating a crop box. From there I could tab through and input the box parameters manually to crop proofs and check the myriad of odd trim, bleed and artwork bounds. It's not a huge deal, but I work in a busy prepress department and I miss the speed and rhythm I developed with the keyboard only shortcut. I'm sure anybody who works with a computer a lot can appreciate how extra clicks and steps can add up over time.

I looked in the Keyboard Shortcut section of the Acrobat XI Help PDF and I could not find a shortcut.

I agree with ecstatic design. Ctrl-Shift-T was much easier to use than the current method. I don't do it everyday but it was simple. It was also directly on the menu so if you forgot it (or were using it for the first time) it was easily accessible.

Acrobat XI Pro has taken a huge step backwards with the significant reduction in the menu, making it now impossible to accomplish many tasks without the use of the mouse. As for cropping or resizing pages it is now completely counter-intuitive and I have had to hunt on the internet more than once to remember how to do it. Even a slow moving mouse user might never find the Set Page Boxes dialogue.

Put it back on the top menu, Adobe, and give me my shortcut keystroke back!

Up front: I am a newbie and am (still) using XI Pro as a trial. That said, I do feel that matters around margins, papersize, in all the different window panels, they are a bit confusing to me. Maybe the number of questions asked on Internet regarding margins, will make Adobe to address this and make this a little bit more userfriendly.

Example: I have a document with size of 178,2 x 97,4mm (File->Print->tag Custom Scale 100&).

By default, Acrobat selects "Auto portrait/landscape" (under Orientation) and displays the print as Landscape.

If I change this to Portrait, the preview shows the text in the utmost left top corner, well into the 'grey borders'...?

Is that correct? I can't adjust the margins here.

Personally, I would like to have two print-profiles:

1. where nothing is being shrinked as long as it fits on a document with 'my margings'

(e.g. left 15mm width required to punch holes, right 10mm, top and bottom 10mm)

2. where documents may be shrinked with margins set a 0mm all around

Donot know how to 'set this as default'.

Secondly, File->Print->Select Printer:Adobe PDF ->Click on Proporties button, right of Adobe PDF,

then click on "Edit" right of Default Settings - under default page size it says:

Papersize is set to 215,9 x 279,4

ISO Standard is 210 × 297

i.e. papersize is 5.9mm wider x 17.6mm higher that the ISO size.

Anyway, does anybody know how to create these custom print profiles ?

Windows 7 x64

Acrobat Pro XI

Printer: HP 3800dn

Thanks

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adwul62, I don't think you are talking about the same thing as everyone else in this thread. This is about the crop tool in Acrobat.

You are asking something about printing. Not sure though, are you talking about PRINTING TO PDF (with the Adobe PDF printer, which you mention)? Or are you talking about Printing FROM PRINT (print in Acrobat, to your own printer, which you also mention)? Perhaps we can provide clarity. Acrobat has really very little indeed to do with margins (it isn't Word and is less like Word than many people realise), and by focussing on margins you may be going down the wrong path for understanding.

Hello to you,

Sorry, I am not sure how I got here, but likely I used F1 from within Acrobat and did a search on "set margins in acrobat" and more or less took the first hit

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Adobe Acrobat XI * Crop PDF pages

Choose Tools > Print Production > Set Page Boxes. Under Margin Controls,

select Remove White Margins. To remove ...

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Anyway, what I want is, for both options, i.e. either print a PDF to printer, or print to PDF (and creating a PDF doc thát way), I'd like to have:

1)  with custom margin, e.g. left 15mm

2) without margins, i.e. set to '0'

3) set either one of them as default.

I've tried to figure this out thru preferences, think there is nothing and then went on to search via Google and F1 help.

Am afraid I donot know how to sort this out.

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It is almost always better to start a new question than jump into another, because everyone gets confused. And the original poster, who is now getting emails unrelated to their question, is not helped... Anyway, here we are.

When you're learning Acrobat, you probably need to learn what it does rather than determine it needs to work as you wish; the clash can be frustrating and Acrobat usually wins. Acrobat is a very large program with many options some of which only a few people in the world understand, so learning is most frustrating for people who want to be thorough, unfortunately.

There are no custom margins when you print a PDF. There might be custom margins when you print TO PDF..

Some convenient definitions of things that aren't really margins:

"printer margins". Most printers can't print to the edge of the paper, they have an unprintable area at the edges. Often this space is not the same all round. Often, especially for inkjets there is an unprintable edge at the bottom of 12 mm or more.

"PDF margins". PDFs have no concept of margins, but this is simply used to conveniently talk about the white space at the edge of the PDF (if any).

When you print FROM Acrobat, the following applies:

You can choose page scaling options. Key options are

None - there is no scaling, the PDF is printed at its precise size. If the PDF size and paper size happen to be the same, then the PDF is put directly to fill the paper. If the PDF's margins are larger than the printer margins, all is well. Otherwise one or more edges of the PDF are cut off.

Fit to printable area  - the PDF page is shrunk or enlarged to fit neatly inside the printer margins. You see margins on the printed page which are the combination of the printer margins and scaled PDF margins.

When you print TO PDF, Acrobat offers no margin options. But the application you print FROM might have margin options.

Thank you so much!

You are right, the original poster may be getting unrelated updates.

In case of need, I will create a new thread on this.

Again, many thanks to your elabrate reply.

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When I try this in Acrobat XI, Acrobat crops the page to whatever size I originally drew my crop box to. If I choose Trim from the Margin Control > Apply To pop-up box, Acrobat still crops thae page to whatever size I had crawn the cop box in Acrobat to. How, really how, do I get Acrobat to crop the page to eliminage the crop marks?

Preflight has a zillion options, but on my Acrobat X (on a MAC) permanently deleting what was cropped out is not one of them.  Can you provide more detailed advice here for a relative newbie to preflight? 

thanks

(I ask because none of the advice about non-destructive cropping I have found on the Adobe communities seems to hold, at least not for me.  E.g., Preview also does non-destructive cropping (but can be hidden/revealed by toggling between crop box and media box on View-PDF display.  Saving as PDF does not destroy the cropped areas...)

If the data is secret/sensitive, rather than just occupying space, first redact it. It's the only way to be SURE all trace has gone.

If it's a handful of big images, just delete them with the touch-up tool.

You can create a preflight profile using the custom action Custom profiles > Fixups > Remove page objects which are completely outside of trim area.

Note that none of these will remove partial objects (though redaction will partially destroy).

Thanks for quick response.  Unfortunately in my Acrobat X (10.1.10),

there is no "Remove page objects which are completely outside of trim

area" under  "Custom profiles > Fixups > "  It doesn't show up when I

search Preflight either.

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You're not looking at more than a tiny fraction of the preflight choices!

No existing profile offers this fixup. You have to create a new profile.

Options menu, Create new preflight profile.

Now look under custom profiles, section Fixups, add the appropriate one to your own profile.

Text outside of the crop box  can be removed using Tools Sidebar->Protection->Remove Hidden Information (though this will not remove overlayed images if any such are present). When the Remove Hidden Information tab is done analyzing, uncheck all selections except for "Hidden text" and "Deleted or cropped content" and then click Remove. Having done this, you can select the crop tool using Tools Sidebar->Pages->Crop, double click on any page and in the Change Page Size field you can then safely set your own white margins. While I have not tried it, it seems that one can remove cropped content directly through the Change Page Size field as long as there are no issues concerning content overlap.

As mentioned, Acrobat now offers it through a single key selection. To activate the single key selection, follow the manual instructions given as "To enable single-key shortcuts, open the Preferences dialog box, and under General, select the Use Single-Key Accelerators To Access Tools option."

To be honest (and to reassure anyone else who ends up in the same state as me), I gave up on achieving what I desired (i.e., destructive cropping).  The suggestions either did not work as claimed, did not appear on my version of Acrobat, or were too cryptic for me to follow.  Perhaps I will try to create my own preflight profile when I get time and a second (3rd?) wind.

Does anyone know how to only crop multiple selected pages?

For example, holding down Ctrl I can select pages 1, 5, 9, 15, 25 etc.  I ONLY want to crop those pages (and not any/all pages in between of this range).  I realize I can do this manually but it is a large document so it is faster to just select and crop only the pages that I have selected.  How can I crop based only on what I have selected?

Thank you in advance!

You can delete the cropped area by using the Private tool (or what ever it is called in your version) and select the remove hidden areas. The Reduce File Size used to do this, but no longer. Now you have to do it through this other method. I think that may make the 8.5X11 the new page size.

Don't think this option is available. You might consider reorganizing the pages to crop a series of pages and then moving them back.

Unfortunately I cannot reorganize the pages because the ones being cropped are slip-sheets identifying Tab #'s from a binder so we need to keep them in the order in which the document was scanned.

I am a bit surprised that under the Crop tool there is only the options "Apply to even, odd or even and odd pages".  They really need to add an "Apply to selected pages" option.  In MS Office is there is a similar option for printing pages whereby you can print "selected areas".

The suggestion was that you reorganise the pages TEMPORARILY so you can crop them all together, then restore them to the ORIGINAL order. Might not be quicker, but it is an option.

Yes I understood that but we routinely deal with 100+ tab documents so this is not a feasible option for us.  We may have to revaluate our workflow process for now.

Thanks anyways for the suggestions and hopefully Adobe considers this option in the future.

It's possible to script this task, using a custom made script.