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Originally posted by: Peter Grainge
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I can see the problem this gives you but I am not sure it is a bug.
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Originally posted by: Peter Grainge
There is a difference between the Topic Title, as in the Topic Properties and the Topic Heading, as at the top of your topic.
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It sounds like your layout is to have English content and French content in the same topic and exclude whatever you need to for a particular output.
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I don't do any foreign language work but my understanding is that those who do maintain two topics and use the tags on the whole topic.
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If a topic is in, then you will get whatever is in the Topic Title.
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I suspect that would be because of the way the Microsoft compiler works and Adobe cannot control that, nor do I expect Microsoft to make any changes to accomodate this need.
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Maybe some folks who work in multiple languages could chip in and advise how they work.
I am guessing that where Map IDs are used for the call, they maintain two projects so that the "same" topic can have the same ID.
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Originally posted by: Colum McAndrew
That is my understanding also although I, like Peter, don't do any translation work..........yet! Although it is a long way off from the top of the list of priorities for us, I think there are three two options.
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The first is to use separate topics as Peter describes
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and the other involves a translation agency and use of a separate project.
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Originally posted by: Boggym
Hi folks,
I am doing a lot of translation work (4 languages, in the near future the 5th will be added) and I do separate projects for each of the language.
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From what I saw on different other software packages, the help it is installed and to which the user has access to, is the one in the language which got selected at installation time.
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So, if you are using conditional building tags, you are able to have just one project and it will display in whatever language the user desires? (Or at least this is what it is supposed to do?)
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Normally, on RH7 one has to establish the language it is to be used in the project, and one has to localize the system on which the localization is being done, so I do not quite see how can somebody do a helpfile in multiple languages (especially if you use different fonts like Japanese, Simplified Chinese, aso).
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Did I understand the situation correcly?
Cheers,
Bogdan
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Originally posted by: Peter Grainge
I doubt they are doing one file. I suspect one output for each language and the developers install the requisite output based on language selected.
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ADOBE EMPLOYEE INTRIGUED BY IDEA OF SEARCHING TOPIC HEADINGS
It already does that. The problem is that in the list displayed, as with the index, it is the topic title that gets displayed in the list of results and, as previously, the topic title is not necessarily the same as the topic heading.
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Many authors have their projects set up knowing it will be title that appears in the search results and will choose to have a heading that is not exactly the same.
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Would I be right in thinking the Flare DLL changed things to what you want but does not give an option? The good news is that if MadCap have made that change and the compiler is happy, then the way that works is not an issue.
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HOW TO GET WHAT YOU WANT
I wonder if the previous requests got lost because those evaluating because they took the view the problem could be avoided.
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I recently responded to a post where somebody wanted the topic title to be a user defined variable (introduced in RH6) and it occurs to me that you could use that idea. Each topic title would be a variable and you would define the appropriate values for each language.
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So try posting this on the wishlist as it combines your requirement with another thereby increasing the chances.
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When a user searches, the list displayed is the relevant Topic Title. There should be an option for this to be based on the Topic Heading as conditional tags and variables would then allow different lists of results to be generated for different outputs. For example, different languages or different customer names.
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The last part of your post, if I have understood it correctly, sounds like merged help is needed where each customer has the parent and the children relative to their condition.
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Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by: Peter Grainge
So to summarise you need either or both of the following:
1] Topic titles that can be conditionalised.
2] The option to use Topic Headings rather than Topic Titles in the list of topics displayed in response to a search.
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I will put this forward but I cannot support changing from Topic Titles to Topic Headings. Too many users would not want that so it has to be an option.
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Looking through the thread, it does seem as though using variables could be a benefit to you.
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Also I still do not accept this is a bug. This is working as designed. The fact that it does not suit your method of working does not make it a bug. What is needed is a feature change. It is one that would suit other users for various reasons.
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You commented that you didn't know where I got the idea that you are using merged webhelp. I didn't get that idea. I suggested that you might want to consider using it.
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Originally posted by: Peter Grainge
Tell me how to conditionalise a Topic Title. I know how to conditionalise a Topic Heading, that is at the top of the topic and you apply a condition. The Topic Title appears via Properties and I don't believe you can conditionalise that. That is why I suggested [1] above so that you could apply a condition.
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What promise is it you believe that Adobe have not fulfilled? You say
They should have put conditions on their statement that you could 'handle more than one condition in the same project.'
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