Epson Ultra Premium Lustre -- Glossy or Matte in LR?

[John Blaustein]

Hi,

I am printing from LR to my Epson R3000 printer using Epson Ultra Premium Photo Paper Lustre.  Two questions:

1) LR Print module > Print Job > Media Type, would this paper be Glossy or Matte?

2) LR Print Module > Color Management > Profile, I can select SPR3000 Premium Lustre, but there is no Ultra Premium Photo Paper Lustre.  Is the profile the same for both of these--Premium Lustre and Ultra Premium?

Thank you.

John

[KR Seals]

1. choose glossy there..

2. On my Epson 3880 the profile is definitely the Ultra premium photo lustre

[John Blaustein]

KR,

OK on glossy.  Thanks.

Definitely no option for Ultra Premium Photo Paper Lustre, only Premium Lustre.  Perhaps Epson added that profile for the 3880.

By the way, for Intent I typically use Perceptual rather than Relative.  Any comments about Intent?

John

[JoeKostoss]

If you have a choice of Premium Luster, I would give it a try.

I also typically chose Perceptual.  It preserves out of gamut detail but may change in-gamut colors. 

If your image has a great deal of Out of Gamut colors, Relative will clip Out of Gamut detail resulting in a "flat" looking image. 

If you have no Out of Gamut colors, there will be no difference in the final image regardless of which Intent is chosen.

The final choice is up to you; it is your image and what looks good to you is what matters.

[John Blaustein]

Thanks, Joe and KR.

I think the paper and profile are the same, just the names have been modified.

John

[TheDigitalDog · Accepted solution]

ICC Profiles know NOTHING about image content or colors in context! They only know about individual pixel values. The perceptual table rendering has no rules; every profile maker can produce results they believe produces the most pleasing color as this has nothing to do with color accuracy. Not all ICC profiles are created equally!* Picking an appropriate rendering intent is image specific! Soft proof; toggle RelCol, Perceptual and even Saturation. Pick the one you visually prefer.

Not all ICC profiles are created equally

In this 23 minute video, I'll cover:

The basic anatomy of ICC Profiles

Why there are differences in profile quality and color rendering

How to evaluate an ICC output profile

Examples of good and not so good canned profiles and custom profiles on actual printed output.

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/Not_All_Profiles_are_created_equally.mp4

Low resolution (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNdR_tIFMME&feature=youtu.be

[John Blaustein]

Does anyone have experience using Datacolor's SpyderPRINT to make custom profiles?  Comments?

[JoeKostoss]

I do not, but you might get more responses by posting this in a separate new thread rather than piggyback on an older thread with an unrelated subject.

[TheDigitalDog]

John Blaustein wrote:

Does anyone have experience using Datacolor's SpyderPRINT to make custom profiles? Comments?

Get a ColorMunki from X-rite instead. At least you're getting a true Spectrophotometer and it makes very good quality profiles.

http://xritephoto.com/colormunki-photo

[John Blaustein]

Andrew,

Thank you for the suggestion.  (I have followed your online advice on color management for 10+ years and have always appreciated your willingness to share information.  Again..... thanks!)

John

thedigitaldog wrote:

John Blaustein wrote:

Does anyone have experience using Datacolor's SpyderPRINT to make custom profiles? Comments?

Get a ColorMunki from X-rite instead. At least you're getting a true Spectrophotometer and it makes very good quality profiles.

http://xritephoto.com/colormunki-photo

[KR Seals]

Epson has changed the premium lustre name slightly through the years.

I also use perceptual. You can find a lot of reason to use one over the other in forum discussions.