9 Replies Latest reply on Jan 16, 2017 7:30 AM by Laubender

Page tool not moving other pages in spread

ChristopherGale Jan 16, 2017 2:56 AM

Hi all,

So I have created a script that builds a 3 page spread book cover template. Page 1 being the back cover, page 2 being the spine and page 3 being the front cover.

I have always created this template manually and it has allowed me to adjust the spine page width using the Page Tool. This is necessary as often spine widths change depending on the length of the book.

However, the document built using my script behaves differently. If I change the width of a page using the Page Tool, it doesn't affect the other pages in the spread. eg. If I make a page wider, it extends behind the page next to it, rather than pushing it along accordingly. If I make a page narrower, it creates a gap between the pages in the spread.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

1. Re: Page tool not moving other pages in spread

Eternal Warrior Jan 16, 2017 3:33 AM (in response to ChristopherGale)

Perhaps you could try explaining more visually what the problem is as I'm a little confused?
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2. Re: Page tool not moving other pages in spread

ChristopherGale Jan 16, 2017 3:42 AM (in response to Eternal Warrior)

Sure thing! So here's the start point. I want to resize that middle page which is currently 40mm wide.

This is what happens when I resize to 80mm. The enlarged page appears to go behind the page to its right. The total spread width doesn't change.

And this is what I want to happen. (I achieved this by moving the 3rd page out of the spread and then readded it to the spread, but this is clunky)
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Eternal Warrior Jan 16, 2017 4:38 AM (in response to ChristopherGale)

Have you tried using two(or three) types of master pages in a liquid page layout and then have the master pages control things? I think this would solve the problem 90% of time...

But you may still need to use the page tool if they try and overlay each other and also change the spine widths by editing the Master page spine width (in this example master page B).

I'm still trying to figure out any other solutions.. but it would look like this:

P.s. I had the allow document pages to shuffle and selected spread to shuffle turned off
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ChristopherGale Jan 16, 2017 5:12 AM (in response to Eternal Warrior)

Thanks so much for your help. I think I've now found the solution though:

I switched the document to Facing Pages and it now adjusts properly!

Thanks again,
C
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vinny38 Jan 16, 2017 5:20 AM (in response to ChristopherGale)

hi
Check facing pages feature is ON
regards
vinny
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6. Re: Page tool not moving other pages in spread

Eternal Warrior Jan 16, 2017 5:59 AM (in response to vinny38)

I get that this is the answer (and I already had it enabled in my example) but aside from organising pages into spreads I don't understand how this automatically adjusts the distance between pages?

Forgive me for sounding foolish.
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7. Re: Page tool not moving other pages in spread

Laubender Jan 16, 2017 6:48 AM (in response to Eternal Warrior)

Eternal Warrior wrote:
… but aside from organising pages into spreads I don't understand how this automatically adjusts the distance between pages?

In facing pages documents when using the Page Tool the x-direction is always grayed out, it is not available:
InDesign's pages cannot be moved in x-direction. Thus all pages have to be ordered around the spine or follow exactly as next neighbor to the next or previous page horizontally.

In non-facing documents there is no spine.
As you can see from the Page Tool you can move pages in x- and y-direction around throughout the spread's pasteboard.
Also overlapping of pages is possible. Rotating pages and sheering pages as well.

That's how the developers of InDesign CS5 implemented the feature of different page sizes with InDesign.
It has not changed until now.

Regards,
Uwe
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Eternal Warrior Jan 16, 2017 7:17 AM (in response to Laubender)

My only comment to this would be that I cannot seem to be able to control the width of all pages or a specific page whilst on normal view with the Page Tool but I can adjust the width with the tools in the Menu bar...
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9. Re: Page tool not moving other pages in spread

Laubender Jan 16, 2017 7:30 AM (in response to Eternal Warrior)

Hm. You can always adjust the width of the pages. But depending on facing pages you cannot control the x-position of a page on the spread's pasteboard. The x-position of a page with facing pages documents is always "automatic".

Regards,
Uwe
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