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Preflight for missing glyphs is not working with «small caps» activated

Community Beginner ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi everyone

In InDesign, in a text frame, I put this text set in Arial Unicode MS:

中文

English

मराठी

ArialUnicodeMs.png

Then, I set the same text in Times New Roman Regular:

TimesNewRoman.png

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Community Beginner ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi everyone

In InDesign, in a text frame, I put this text set in Arial Unicode MS:

中文

English

मराठी

ArialUnicodeMs.png

Then, I set the same text in Times New Roman Regular:

TimesNewRoman.png

The first and the third words (中文 and मराठी) are not visible (they are pink-highlighted) because Times New Roman Regular doesn’t cover Chinese and Devanagari.

Those missing glyphs are reported in the Preflight panel (7 errors found according to my personal profile «Missing glyphs»).

When I apply the «Small Caps» feature to my text those 7 errors disappear.

According to InDesign there are no missing glyphs in my document:

TimesNewRoman_SmallCaps.png

Do you think it is a bug?

Do you think it can be solved?

Giorgio

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Adobe Employee ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi,

Somehow I am not able to see this issue with InDesign CC 2017.1 on my Windows 10 machine.

Can you again create a new Preflight profile by overriding the default one in a separate document?

-Aman

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Community Expert ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi Aman,
I can recreate this bug.


German Mac OSX 10.10.5

German InDesign CC 2017.1 v 12.1.0.56

See yourself:

[1] No Small Caps applied:

4 errors for missing glyphs detected.

NoMissingGlyphsWarning-BEFORE-SmallCaps-Applied.png

[2] Small Caps applied to text of one story:

2 errors for missing glyphs detected.

NoMissingGlyphsWarning-AFTER-SmallCaps-Applied.png

[3] Small Caps applied to text of all stories with missing glyphs:

No missing glyphs detected.

NoMissingGlyphsWarning-AFTER-SmallCaps-Applied-2.png

FWIW: The default basic preflight profile cannot detect missing glyphs at all.

Regards,
Uwe

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Adobe Employee ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi Uwe,

With the fonts and the glyphs that you have shown, I am able to reproduce this issue as well.

But try the following...

Am sure I am missing a major point here.

Let me know your observations.

-Aman

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Community Beginner ,
May 31, 2017 May 31, 2017

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Hi Aman

It seems that the bug depends on the font used.

In these 3 examples I used 3 fonts (they all are OpenType) and I applied the «Small Caps» feature.

Palatino LT Std Roman (the missing glyphs are detected):

PalatinoLTStdSmallCaps.png

Minion Pro Regular (the missing glyphs are detected):

MinionProSmallCaps.png

Myriad Pro Regular (the missing glyphs are NOT detected):

MyriadProSmallCaps.png

Notice that:

  • Palatino LT Std Roman and Minion Pro Regular own genuine OpenType small cap glyphs.
  • Myriad Pro Regular doesn’t own genuine OpenType small cap glyphs (the small-caps effect is simulated).

— Giorgio

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Community Expert ,
May 30, 2017 May 30, 2017

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Hi Georgio,

report the bug here:

Feature Request/Bug Report Form

I can see this bug already with InDesign CS6 v 8.1.0.
Guess it's also with CS5 and CS5.5…
( but did not test )

Regards,
Uwe

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Hi Laubender

I reported the issue on that form.

Thanks.

I found the issue in

  • InDesign CC 2014 (OS X 10.9.5 and macOs 10.12.5)
  • InDesign CC 2017 (macOs 10.12.5)

— Giorgio

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