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Automation through CC applications

New Here ,
May 31, 2017 May 31, 2017

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Hello,

I am trying to find a way (or possibly third party software) that would allow me to automate actions throughout multiple Adobe CC applications. I work in a print shop, and I am trying to simplify some of our more common processes.

So let's say I have a 24x36 poster file that will be mounted to a piece of foamcore. This is a common thing we do all the time. I want to create a process that will open the file in Ps, add .25" to the canvas side width and height, content-aware fill that space, and then save the file out. It would then need to open the file in Ai, add crop marks, and save that file out as a .eps. This would create a usable print file for that single poster.

Now let's say I need to print 5 of these posters, not just one. I would want a second (or longer) action that would create a new 48"x96" document in Id, create a 24x36 frame, and drop in my print file. Then duplicate that frame to create a 2x2 layout with a fifth poster rotated to fit at the bottom. Lastly, the outer perimeter edges of each frame would need to be extended, revealing the bleed and crop marks from the print file. This layout would be saved out as a .pdf, then taken into Ps and saved out as a .eps. This particular printer only works with .eps files.

If this sounds complicated, it's a process we do multiple times a day. Basically this gives us a poster file, imposed 5 times to fit on a 4'x8' board which would then be cut down. It's a lot of time spent on what should be a relatively easy process, but due to different programs limitations it has to be done in multiple apps. Hence why I'd like to find some kind of automation process that I can pre-program this into, so that it can be done with a single click.

Feel free to tell me that this is an impossible pipe dream, but I'd obviously love it if someone had some insight on a solution to my problem.

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Jun 01, 2017 Jun 01, 2017

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At a basic level, this is easy enough to do in two main steps:

1) Run an action or script to create the “gallery wrap” bleed and save the file (either content aware or mirrored bleed)

2) Open a template file and replace the links with the new image (the template file would contain 1up or 5up stepped with crop marks, and linked “placeholder” images that would be linked to the new image, then the final EPS would be exported/saved. This could be created in either Illustrator or InDesign.

With more work this could probably be scripted into a “single script” (using OS level VB or Apple Script scripting if this was not possible with ExtendScript), however the basic two step approach above would get you 99% of the way there to start with.

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Why do this in Illustrator, is it only to output an EPS?

Why do this in InDesign, then rasterize in Photoshop and save an EPS? InDesign can export direct to EPS.

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Jun 01, 2017 Jun 01, 2017

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InDesign can export to eps? Ive never found that. I'll have to take a closer look. If that's the case, I could at least simplify the process to only use Ps and Id, and then create 2 scripts as you suggested.

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Jun 01, 2017 Jun 01, 2017

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Okay, so Id can totally output eps files. Never knew that, and I went to school for this. That alone is a huge help.

I should also mention that this whole thing is more my boss's idea than mine. He's all about automation, coming from an engineering background where everything was the same, over and over again. We're a %99 custom print shop, and very rarely do jobs follow any sort of template or "standard." Because of that, we've been setting everything up manually for a long time. Something like a template, which would normally make tons of sense, would be almost useless because I'd need a template for every size poster that comes through. Now multiply that by 4 for the different machines we have (all different processes) and it becomes genuinely faster to just set each job up individually. But at least I'm trying to fulfill his wishes, so I can say that.

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Sounds like what you really need is an updated RIP that can work with PDF files that also offers nesting/tiling or other software to automate the multi-up imposition/step and repeat work.

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