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Texture a vector illustration or colorize a photo for a 3D layer?

Community Beginner ,
Aug 29, 2017 Aug 29, 2017

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Hi folks -

I'm working on adding a 3D phoenix over a background fire image. Is it recommended to color-exchange feathers and such from a photo to produce this image? Or is it better to begin with a 2D vector illustration and work on adding the feather textures?

Thank you!

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Mentor , Aug 30, 2017 Aug 30, 2017

To get a truly convincing effect, you would have to start more or less from scratch: build up the phoenix in layers by drawing it with cloned parts of fire. You can use the existing graphic as a template to do this, and remove it later.

https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-hellacious-flaming-skull-in-photoshop--psd-2894

Download fire brushes to make things easier: Fire Free Brushes - (581 Free Downloads)

Another option is to burn a real wooden phoenix model and composite that int

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Hi there,

It's hard to know what you need to do without seeing the image. Perhaps you can attach a screenshot of the image so we can see what you're trying to achieve. However, if I interpret your message correctly  it sounds like you want to apply the colours from the feathers to the fire or vice versa.

The easiest way to do this is to experiment with  blending modes. Placed one layer above the other and  in the layer panel select the top layer. Change the blending mode from normal and go down the list of different modes so you see something you like.

The colour blending mode will work with the pure colour but you may find that something like hard light, soft white or overlay work well too.

Hope this helps.

Angie Taylor – Creative Cabin

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Thanks, Angie! I didn't want to clutter things with images and such - here's a rough example. I can blend into the fire no problem, but it's the attempt to make the bird appear realistic as opposed to a simple cut-and-paste, which is why I was asking about the feathers. Changing the bird to 3D improves it somewhat, with shadows and such, but makes it even more imperative to add the feathers.

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To get a truly convincing effect, you would have to start more or less from scratch: build up the phoenix in layers by drawing it with cloned parts of fire. You can use the existing graphic as a template to do this, and remove it later.

https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-hellacious-flaming-skull-in-photoshop--psd-289...

Download fire brushes to make things easier: Fire Free Brushes - (581 Free Downloads)

Another option is to burn a real wooden phoenix model and composite that into your image, of course (would still need editing). And the background would need to be keyed - requiring a black background, for example.

Or use a 3d app like Blender to create a 3d Phoenix that is actually "on fire", and composite it in your image. Might seem like a lot of work, but results in very realistic looking effects.

Blender Phönix Test - YouTube

Quick Fire & Smoke Setup in Blender 2.7 Cycles - YouTube

How to Render Fire in Cycles - YouTube

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