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Help with French fold layout

New Here ,
Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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Can anyone point me in the direction to CLEAR instructions re: how to set up the layout for a French fold brochure in InDesign, i.e., an 11 x 17 document that will be folded once vertically and once horizontally to create an 8.5 x 5.5" final product?  I've found downloadable templates on-line, but confess it's not clear to me how I load those into InDesign (and they all have the waterwark/logo of the printing company in question). The one article I found on-line wasn't clear.  I found an excellent tutorial re: trifold brochure design, but couldn't find anything similar for French fold.  I'm an InDesign beginner (so you might say I have no business trying to do this!), but I have some time to devote to this.  Thanks for any help...

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Community Expert , Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

The below image shows the fold assembly

french-fold.jpg

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Adobe Employee ,
Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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Hi,

Learn how to create a french fold template from here: https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/quick-tip-creating-a-french-fold-template-in-indesign--vector-...

it has a number of screenshots to guide you.

modify it to suit your page dimensions

-Aman

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Hi Aman,

Thank you for your prompt reply!  I'd seen this particular article, but found it difficult to follow (all of the measurements being metric didn't help), and it wasn't clear to me that the layout being set up allowed content on both sides...i.e., the initial set-up was for one page, but then there were instructions for duplicating pages later...I guess it's a reflection of my newness to InDesign that I found it tricky to follow.

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Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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Become a free member on www.foldfactory.com. Then you can use their free Template Builder which is very easy to use for Adobe InDesign. It covers dozens of common kinds of folds.

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New Here ,
Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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Thanks, Steve; I'd seen your referrals to Fold Factory in other posts, and I checked it out but didn't see any guidance for the French fold format/option, although there are certainly many other interesting options.

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Sorry, the foldfactory.com website has changed since I referred to it in a class in the spring. I need to spend some time there to figure out the new website layout.

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Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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You can do this in basically 2 methods.

Method 1: One Indesign document: 11 x 17, 2 pages - front and back, guides created for the four quarters. One drawback, from example, pages 2 and 3 are rotated 180°, however you can rotate view when working on these pages of project.

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Method 2: Two Indesign documents. First document used for content creation: 5.5 x 8.5, 8 pages for all quarters of finished piece, orientation normal. Second document used for final assembly: 11 x 17, 2 pages - with content placeholders for each quarter.  This will require export of first doc, and then placed into second document. Rotate pages 2 and 3, and also consider bleed of content.

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The below image shows the fold assembly

french-fold.jpg

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Hi Jeffrey,

Many thanks; the two document suggestion is very helpful, and I think I'll give that a try.  I like idea of assembling the content in single pages, and not having to worry-at that time, anyway!--about how it will be oriented to other content in other panes...seems like it should be less unwieldy to work on.

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Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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The other benefit with the 2 document method, the PDF proof of first document is much easier to read than a large spread.

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Sep 13, 2017 Sep 13, 2017

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Couple of things:

1. If you're sending this off to a printer, most times, they will want to do the imposition themselves. Set it up at finished page size and give a high res PDF.

2. If you're trying to figure out how to coordinate a doc, whether french fold, booklet, etc. take some blank paper and make a dummy. Number the way it should read, then unfold. This gives you all the info you need.

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Sep 14, 2017 Sep 14, 2017

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Thanks so much, Dave.

With your first point, do you mean that printers might prefer to create the 11 x 17 presentation themselves, using the 8 individual 5.5 x 8.5 pages I create?

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