16 Replies Latest reply on May 25, 2012 10:26 AM by Kieren13

    ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly

    Kieren13

      I started having this situation after the 6.7 update to ACR, in the folder I was working on at the time of the update. The symptom is that after all the previews are built, any action (ex. display a preview) causes Thumbnails, Previews, and 100% previews to start rebuilding, entire or in part at different times. I have tried a number of things to try to fix this, including Prefs. reset in Bridge and PS CS5, flushing Bridge and ACR caches, creating a new (DATE) folder for the images, and manually deleting the .BridgeCache and .BridgeCacheT files from the folder. I have done an in-place reinstall of Photoshop, and an uninstall-reinstall. There was one file in the group that was rejecting key words, but I resolved that by deleting its XMP file and regenerating it. Turning off Open GL acceleration makes no difference.

       

      Thanks!

       

      SysInfo follows:

       

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      Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit

      Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1

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      Physical processor count: 6

      Processor speed: 3411 MHz

      Built-in memory: 16382 MB

      Free memory: 977 MB

      Memory available to Photoshop: 14733 MB

      Memory used by Photoshop: 69 %

      Image tile size: 132K

      Image cache levels: 6

      Display: 1

      Display Bounds:=  top: 0, left: 0, bottom: 1200, right: 1920

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      Video Card Memory: 1024 MB

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      Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

      Flash:

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         Kuler

         Access CS Live

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      Message was edited by: Kieren13 ....to make the subject line more informative, and to remove the serial number.

       

      Follow up:

       

      I neglected to mention that Bridge has crashed several times, sometimes seeming to take Firefox down with it. I did some searching in the system logs, and found AppCrash reports, mostly of two types. Since the first report above, I have updated the graphics driver to the most recent release.

       

      Examples are below:

       

      Log Name:  Application
      Source:    Windows Error Reporting
      Date:      5/13/2012 9:44:28 AM
      Event ID:  1001

      Task Category: None

      Level:     Information
      Keywords:  Classic
      User:      N/A
      Computer:  POD64

      Description:

      Fault bucket 2583921648, type 1

      Event Name: APPCRASH

      Response: Not available

      Cab Id: 0

       

      Problem signature:

      P1: Bridge.exe

      P2: 4.1.0.54

      P3: 4d6f26b3

      P4: ACE.dll

      P5: 2.16.36.12130

      P6: 4d6f287f

      P7: c0000005

      P8: 0003c8c7

      P9:

      P10:

       

      Attached files:

      C:\Users\Kieren\AppData\Local\Temp\WERDD4E.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

       

      These files may be available here:

      C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Bridge.exe_1958caea3f2e5b6328b 95c82b09e6d6e0baf85b_1f1c18a9

       

      Analysis symbol:

      Rechecking for solution: 0

      Report Id: 1aab737a-9d0a-11e1-869c-f46d0407302c

      Report Status: 0

      Event Xml:

      <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">

        <System>


      <Provider Name="Windows Error Reporting" />

      <EventID Qualifiers="0">1001</EventID>

      <Level>4</Level>

      <Task>0</Task>

      <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>

      <TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-05-13T14:44:28.000000000Z" />

      <EventRecordID>33542</EventRecordID>

      <Channel>Application</Channel>

      <Computer>POD64</Computer>

      <Security />

        </System>

        <EventData>


      <Data>2583921648</Data>

      <Data>1</Data>

      <Data>APPCRASH</Data>

      <Data>Not available</Data>

      <Data>0</Data>

      <Data>Bridge.exe</Data>

      <Data>4.1.0.54</Data>

      <Data>4d6f26b3</Data>

      <Data>ACE.dll</Data>

      <Data>2.16.36.12130</Data>

      <Data>4d6f287f</Data>

      <Data>c0000005</Data>

      <Data>0003c8c7</Data>

      <Data>

      </Data>

      <Data>

      </Data>

      <Data>

      C:\Users\Kieren\AppData\Local\Temp\WERDD4E.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml</Data>


      <Data>C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Bridge.exe_1958caea3f2e5 b6328b95c82b09e6d6e0baf85b_1f1c18a9</Data>

      <Data>

      </Data>

      <Data>0</Data>

      <Data>1aab737a-9d0a-11e1-869c-f46d0407302c</Data>

      <Data>0</Data>

        </EventData>

      </Event>

       

       

       

      ____________________________________________________

       

      Log Name:  Application
      Source:    Application Error
      Date:      5/13/2012 9:44:13 AM
      Event ID:  1000

      Task Category: (100)

      Level:     Error
      Keywords:  Classic
      User:      N/A
      Computer:  POD64

      Description:

      Faulting application name: Bridge.exe, version: 4.1.0.54, time stamp: 0x4d6f26b3

      Faulting module name: ACE.dll, version: 2.16.36.12130, time stamp: 0x4d6f287f

      Exception code: 0xc0000005

      Fault offset: 0x0003c8c7

      Faulting process id: 0x1664

      Faulting application start time: 0x01cd3116b9843185

      Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5.1\Bridge.exe

      Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5.1\ACE.dll

      Report Id: 1aab737a-9d0a-11e1-869c-f46d0407302c

      Event Xml:

      <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">

        <System>


      <Provider Name="Application Error" />

      <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>

      <Level>2</Level>

      <Task>100</Task>

      <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>

      <TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-05-13T14:44:13.000000000Z" />

      <EventRecordID>33541</EventRecordID>

      <Channel>Application</Channel>

      <Computer>POD64</Computer>

      <Security />

        </System>

        <EventData>


      <Data>Bridge.exe</Data>

      <Data>4.1.0.54</Data>

      <Data>4d6f26b3</Data>

      <Data>ACE.dll</Data>

      <Data>2.16.36.12130</Data>

      <Data>4d6f287f</Data>

      <Data>c0000005</Data>

      <Data>0003c8c7</Data>

      <Data>1664</Data>

      <Data>01cd3116b9843185</Data>

      <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5.1\Bridge.exe</Data>

      <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5.1\ACE.dll</Data>

      <Data>1aab737a-9d0a-11e1-869c-f46d0407302c</Data>

        </EventData>

      </Event>

        • 1. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
          Kieren13 Level 1

          I seem to have narrowed this problem down to some of the metadata .xmp files being corrupted. I renamed the original folder, created a new folder, and started moving the .cr2 files and their .xmp files in small groups to the new folder. Some come across fine, and don't cause the endless rebuilding. Others do cause the misbehavior, and removing the .xmp's one or two at a time stops the problem at some point.

           

          This suggests that trashing the metadata files would resolve the issue. I am trying to avoid doing that wholesale because there's a lot of post-processing work involved.

           

          Is there any way to detect corrupted .xmp's? Repair them?

           

          Thanks.

          • 2. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
            ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Whether you can detect and correct the issue depends on the nature of the problem.  

             

            To determine the problem, identify a pair of XMP files, one that causes the continuous rebuild and one that is ok.  Open each in a text-editor, and scroll through them, side-by-side if possible, to see what is different, besides just the different slider values.

             

            If you’re not quite sure what to do to compare, then you could also try providing the contents to the community, here, and someone might take interest.  Depending on how large the files are, you might be able to just put their contents into a message, here, or perhaps upload them to www.dropbox.com or www.yousendit.com and post the public download link for each in a message, here.

             

            If the problem XMP files all have or don’t have a particular string of characters, then a text-search could probably be run to display the names of the ones with a problem.

             

            If the problem XMP files have all their data but something isn’t quite right with it, then you might be able to use a text-editor to change the contents to something that works.  If the files are missing half their data, then they probably aren’t recoverable.

             

            It’s probably worth a look to find out, though.

            1 person found this helpful
            • 3. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
              Kieren13 Level 1

              Thanks for the suggestions, ssprengel! I'll have a look and post back if/when I spot something.

              • 4. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                Kieren13 Level 1

                I have sorted out examples of XMP files which work and don't work correctly. I am not sure if the way it pasted in is correct. HTML seems to be taking formatting instructions from it. If this doesn't pass muster I will upload a ZIP file somewhere. I tried to compare these, but I'm not really used to reading that kind of text and did not sort anything out that was not an obvious setting. I greatly appreciate any guidance anyone can give. Thanks!

                 

                An example of a BAD file follows.

                An example of a GOOD file follows the BAD file.

                 

                 

                <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.3-c007 1.136881, 2010/06/10-18:11:35    ">

                <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">

                  <rdf:Description rdf:about=""

                xmlns:tiff="http://ns.adobe.com/tiff/1.0/"
                xmlns:exif="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/"
                xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
                xmlns:aux="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/aux/"
                xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"
                xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/"
                xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/"
                xmlns:stEvt="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/sType/ResourceEvent#"
                xmlns:lr="http://ns.adobe.com/lightroom/1.0/"
                xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/"

                   tiff:Make="Canon"

                   tiff:Model="Canon EOS 50D"

                   tiff:Orientation="1"

                   tiff:ImageWidth="4557"

                   tiff:ImageLength="2996"

                   tiff:PhotometricInterpretation="2"

                   tiff:SamplesPerPixel="3"

                   exif:ExifVersion="0221"

                   exif:ExposureTime="1/200"

                   exif:ShutterSpeedValue="7643856/1000000"

                   exif:FNumber="9/1"

                   exif:ApertureValue="633985/100000"

                   exif:ExposureProgram="2"

                   exif:ExposureBiasValue="0/1"

                   exif:MaxApertureValue="475/100"

                   exif:SubjectDistance="4294967295/1"

                   exif:MeteringMode="5"

                   exif:FocalLength="44/1"

                   exif:CustomRendered="0"

                   exif:ExposureMode="0"

                   exif:WhiteBalance="0"

                   exif:SceneCaptureType="0"

                   exif:FocalPlaneXResolution="4752000/894"

                   exif:FocalPlaneYResolution="3168000/597"

                   exif:FocalPlaneResolutionUnit="2"

                   exif:DateTimeOriginal="2012-05-02T10:55:18.00"

                   exif:PixelXDimension="4557"

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                   aux:ApproximateFocusDistance="4294967295/1"

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                   crs:ProcessVersion="5.7"

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                   crs:Shadows="6"

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                   crs:Saturation="0"

                   crs:Sharpness="80"

                   crs:LuminanceSmoothing="5"

                   crs:ColorNoiseReduction="25"

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                   crs:RedHue="0"

                   crs:RedSaturation="0"

                   crs:GreenHue="0"

                   crs:GreenSaturation="0"

                   crs:BlueHue="0"

                   crs:BlueSaturation="0"

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                   crs:Vibrance="+20"

                   crs:HighlightRecovery="22"

                   crs:Clarity="+50"

                   crs:Defringe="2"

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                   crs:HueAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentRed="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentRed="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:SplitToningShadowHue="0"

                   crs:SplitToningShadowSaturation="0"

                   crs:SplitToningHighlightHue="0"

                   crs:SplitToningHighlightSaturation="0"

                   crs:SplitToningBalance="0"

                   crs:ParametricShadows="0"

                   crs:ParametricDarks="0"

                   crs:ParametricLights="0"

                   crs:ParametricHighlights="0"

                   crs:ParametricShadowSplit="25"

                   crs:ParametricMidtoneSplit="50"

                   crs:ParametricHighlightSplit="75"

                   crs:SharpenRadius="+0.8"

                   crs:SharpenDetail="10"

                   crs:SharpenEdgeMasking="0"

                   crs:PostCropVignetteAmount="0"

                   crs:GrainAmount="0"

                   crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail="50"

                   crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail="50"

                   crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast="0"

                   crs:LensProfileEnable="1"

                   crs:LensManualDistortionAmount="0"

                   crs:PerspectiveVertical="-20"

                   crs:PerspectiveHorizontal="0"

                   crs:PerspectiveRotate="0.0"

                   crs:PerspectiveScale="100"

                   crs:AutoLateralCA="1"

                   crs:Exposure2012="0.00"

                   crs:Contrast2012="0"

                   crs:Highlights2012="0"

                   crs:Shadows2012="0"

                   crs:Whites2012="0"

                   crs:Blacks2012="0"

                   crs:Clarity2012="0"

                   crs:ConvertToGrayscale="False"

                   crs:ToneCurveName="Medium Contrast"

                   crs:ToneCurveName2012="Linear"

                   crs:CameraProfile="Canon EOS 50D Canon_50D_ProfileEditor04"

                   crs:CameraProfileDigest="16B9D8E1ACBFB9F874C50E934E93E09F"

                   crs:LensProfileSetup="LensDefaults"

                   crs:HasSettings="True"

                   crs:CropTop="0.026589"

                   crs:CropLeft="0.010985"

                   crs:CropBottom="0.948569"

                   crs:CropRight="0.980086"

                   crs:CropAngle="-0.944704"

                   crs:CropConstrainToWarp="1"

                   crs:HasCrop="True"

                   crs:AlreadyApplied="False">

                   <tiff:BitsPerSample>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </tiff:BitsPerSample>

                   <exif:ISOSpeedRatings>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>200</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </exif:ISOSpeedRatings>

                   <exif:Flash

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                exif:Return="0"
                exif:Mode="2"
                exif:Function="False"
                exif:RedEyeMode="False"/>

                   <dc:creator>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>Photographer: Kieren</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </dc:creator>

                   <dc:rights>

                <rdf:Alt>
                <rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">Copyright: Kieren Ladner</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Alt>

                   </dc:rights>

                   <dc:subject>

                <rdf:Bag>
                <rdf:li>Boat</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>Chicago River</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Bag>

                   </dc:subject>

                   <xmpMM:History>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li
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                  stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:450E3264099AE1119C7DE23DBEA2F5FB"
                  stEvt:when="2012-05-09T14:01:33-05:00"
                  stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 (Windows)"
                  stEvt:changed="/metadata"/>
                <rdf:li
                  stEvt:action="saved"
                  stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:6A23A4E85E9DE111BC19BFBEB5B0179F"
                  stEvt:when="2012-05-13T19:51:15-05:00"
                  stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 (Windows)"
                  stEvt:changed="/metadata"/>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </xmpMM:History>

                   <lr:hierarchicalSubject>

                <rdf:Bag>
                <rdf:li>Places|Chicago River</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>Places|Chicago River|Boat</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Bag>

                   </lr:hierarchicalSubject>

                   <crs:ToneCurve>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>32, 22</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>64, 56</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>128, 128</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>192, 196</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurve>

                   <crs:ToneCurveRed>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveRed>

                   <crs:ToneCurveGreen>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveGreen>

                   <crs:ToneCurveBlue>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveBlue>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Red>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Red>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Green>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Green>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Blue>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Blue>

                  </rdf:Description>

                </rdf:RDF>

                </x:xmpmeta>

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                GOOD XMP:

                 

                <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.3-c007 1.136881, 2010/06/10-18:11:35    ">

                <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">

                  <rdf:Description rdf:about=""

                xmlns:tiff="http://ns.adobe.com/tiff/1.0/"
                xmlns:exif="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/"
                xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
                xmlns:aux="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/aux/"
                xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"
                xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/"
                xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/"
                xmlns:stEvt="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/sType/ResourceEvent#"
                xmlns:lr="http://ns.adobe.com/lightroom/1.0/"
                xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/"

                   tiff:Make="Canon"

                   tiff:Model="Canon EOS 50D"

                   tiff:Orientation="1"

                   tiff:ImageWidth="4752"

                   tiff:ImageLength="2811"

                   tiff:PhotometricInterpretation="2"

                   tiff:SamplesPerPixel="3"

                   exif:ExifVersion="0221"

                   exif:ExposureTime="1/200"

                   exif:ShutterSpeedValue="7643856/1000000"

                   exif:FNumber="71/10"

                   exif:ApertureValue="5655638/1000000"

                   exif:ExposureProgram="2"

                   exif:ExposureBiasValue="0/1"

                   exif:MaxApertureValue="5/1"

                   exif:SubjectDistance="4294967295/1"

                   exif:MeteringMode="5"

                   exif:FocalLength="85/1"

                   exif:CustomRendered="0"

                   exif:ExposureMode="0"

                   exif:WhiteBalance="0"

                   exif:SceneCaptureType="0"

                   exif:FocalPlaneXResolution="4752000/894"

                   exif:FocalPlaneYResolution="3168000/597"

                   exif:FocalPlaneResolutionUnit="2"

                   exif:DateTimeOriginal="2012-05-02T10:56:44.04"

                   exif:PixelXDimension="4752"

                   exif:PixelYDimension="2811"

                   dc:format="image/x-canon-cr2"

                   aux:SerialNumber="520316718"

                   aux:LensInfo="17/1 85/1 0/0 0/0"

                   aux:Lens="EF-S17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM"

                   aux:LensID="234"

                   aux:ImageNumber="0"

                   aux:ApproximateFocusDistance="4294967295/1"

                   aux:FlashCompensation="0/1"

                   aux:OwnerName="Kieren Ladner"

                   aux:Firmware="1.0.7"

                   xmp:ModifyDate="2012-05-02T10:56:44.04"

                   xmp:CreateDate="2012-05-02T10:56:44.04"

                   xmp:Rating="0"

                   xmp:MetadataDate="2012-05-13T19:51:15-05:00"

                   photoshop:DateCreated="2012-05-02T10:56:44.04"

                   photoshop:ColorMode="3"

                   photoshop:ICCProfile=""

                   photoshop:SidecarForExtension="CR2"

                   xmpMM:DocumentID="45B36C3C573CBE09117CC671F7F9AEDA"

                   xmpMM:OriginalDocumentID="45B36C3C573CBE09117CC671F7F9AEDA"

                   xmpMM:InstanceID="xmp.iid:1E035FE85E9DE111BC19BFBEB5B0179F"

                   crs:RawFileName="_MG_8691.CR2"

                   crs:Version="6.7"

                   crs:ProcessVersion="5.7"

                   crs:WhiteBalance="As Shot"

                   crs:Exposure="-0.50"

                   crs:Shadows="5"

                   crs:Brightness="+32"

                   crs:Contrast="+23"

                   crs:Saturation="0"

                   crs:Sharpness="80"

                   crs:LuminanceSmoothing="5"

                   crs:ColorNoiseReduction="25"

                   crs:VignetteAmount="0"

                   crs:ShadowTint="0"

                   crs:RedHue="0"

                   crs:RedSaturation="0"

                   crs:GreenHue="0"

                   crs:GreenSaturation="0"

                   crs:BlueHue="0"

                   crs:BlueSaturation="0"

                   crs:FillLight="10"

                   crs:Vibrance="+20"

                   crs:HighlightRecovery="46"

                   crs:Clarity="+50"

                   crs:Defringe="2"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentRed="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:HueAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentRed="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:SaturationAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentRed="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentOrange="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentYellow="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentGreen="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentAqua="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentBlue="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentPurple="0"

                   crs:LuminanceAdjustmentMagenta="0"

                   crs:SplitToningShadowHue="0"

                   crs:SplitToningShadowSaturation="0"

                   crs:SplitToningHighlightHue="0"

                   crs:SplitToningHighlightSaturation="0"

                   crs:SplitToningBalance="0"

                   crs:ParametricShadows="0"

                   crs:ParametricDarks="0"

                   crs:ParametricLights="0"

                   crs:ParametricHighlights="0"

                   crs:ParametricShadowSplit="25"

                   crs:ParametricMidtoneSplit="50"

                   crs:ParametricHighlightSplit="75"

                   crs:SharpenRadius="+0.8"

                   crs:SharpenDetail="10"

                   crs:SharpenEdgeMasking="0"

                   crs:PostCropVignetteAmount="0"

                   crs:GrainAmount="0"

                   crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail="50"

                   crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail="50"

                   crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast="0"

                   crs:LensProfileEnable="1"

                   crs:LensManualDistortionAmount="0"

                   crs:PerspectiveVertical="0"

                   crs:PerspectiveHorizontal="0"

                   crs:PerspectiveRotate="0.0"

                   crs:PerspectiveScale="100"

                   crs:AutoLateralCA="1"

                   crs:Exposure2012="0.00"

                   crs:Contrast2012="0"

                   crs:Highlights2012="0"

                   crs:Shadows2012="0"

                   crs:Whites2012="0"

                   crs:Blacks2012="0"

                   crs:Clarity2012="0"

                   crs:ConvertToGrayscale="False"

                   crs:ToneCurveName="Medium Contrast"

                   crs:ToneCurveName2012="Linear"

                   crs:CameraProfile="Canon EOS 50D Canon_50D_ProfileEditor04"

                   crs:CameraProfileDigest="16B9D8E1ACBFB9F874C50E934E93E09F"

                   crs:LensProfileSetup="LensDefaults"

                   crs:HasSettings="True"

                   crs:CropTop="0.000001"

                   crs:CropLeft="0"

                   crs:CropBottom="0.887249"

                   crs:CropRight="1"

                   crs:CropAngle="0"

                   crs:CropConstrainToWarp="1"

                   crs:HasCrop="True"

                   crs:AlreadyApplied="False">

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                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>16</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </tiff:BitsPerSample>

                   <exif:ISOSpeedRatings>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>200</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </exif:ISOSpeedRatings>

                   <exif:Flash

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                exif:Return="0"
                exif:Mode="2"
                exif:Function="False"
                exif:RedEyeMode="False"/>

                   <dc:creator>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>Photographer: Kieren</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </dc:creator>

                   <dc:rights>

                <rdf:Alt>
                <rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">Copyright: Kieren Ladner</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Alt>

                   </dc:rights>

                   <dc:subject>

                <rdf:Bag>
                <rdf:li>Boat</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>Chicago River</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Bag>

                   </dc:subject>

                   <xmpMM:History>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li
                  stEvt:action="saved"
                  stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:FDC3E537129AE1119C7DE23DBEA2F5FB"
                  stEvt:when="2012-05-09T15:04:43-05:00"
                  stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 (Windows)"
                  stEvt:changed="/metadata"/>
                <rdf:li
                  stEvt:action="saved"
                  stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:1E035FE85E9DE111BC19BFBEB5B0179F"
                  stEvt:when="2012-05-13T19:51:15-05:00"
                  stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 (Windows)"
                  stEvt:changed="/metadata"/>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </xmpMM:History>

                   <lr:hierarchicalSubject>

                <rdf:Bag>
                <rdf:li>Places|Chicago River</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>Places|Chicago River|Boat</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Bag>

                   </lr:hierarchicalSubject>

                   <crs:ToneCurve>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>32, 22</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>64, 56</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>128, 128</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>192, 196</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurve>

                   <crs:ToneCurveRed>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveRed>

                   <crs:ToneCurveGreen>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveGreen>

                   <crs:ToneCurveBlue>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurveBlue>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Red>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Red>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Green>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Green>

                   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012Blue>

                <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
                <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
                </rdf:Seq>

                   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012Blue>

                  </rdf:Description>

                </rdf:RDF>

                </x:xmpmeta>

                • 5. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                  ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  Copy/pasting each XMP contents into a text file and using WinDiff to compare them, I don’t see anything different with the structure of the files.  The only differences are in the values of various attributes, like date/times, camera-settings, ACR-settings, etc. 

                   

                  The one thing I’m not sure about is that the two images have different reported tiff:ImageWidth/Height and exif:PixelX/YDimension with the “bad” XMP reporting values about 200 pixels smaller than the “good” XMP.  I would have thought these numbers are based on the sensor size and not be different from one image to the next, but perhaps they are post-processing-based, so cropping or lens-correction might change things. 

                   

                  Was there anything different with the camera mode for either of these images, such as one being regular RAW and the other being sRAW or mRAW, or one being a regular photo and the other being taken while video was being recorded.

                   

                  Could it be that the ACR preview cache is corrupted?  Have you tried clearing the cache? 

                   

                  Was one of these manipulated using ACR 6.7 RC and another using ACR 6.7 released version?

                   

                  Was one of the images manipulated by an outside piece of software like DxO?

                   

                  One way to test whether the contents of the XMP file is causing the issue, would be to switch the names of the two XMP files with respect to the two photos and see if the hanging occurs with the same photo or follows the XMP-name.  You should probably make a new copy of each photo and each XMP file, so you’re not disturbing the originals.

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                  • 6. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                    Kieren13 Level 1

                    Hi,

                    I'll see if I can address the possibilities you raise. The size issue is indeed due to cropping. These images are all at the same RAW setting. I have flushed both ACR and Bridge caches more than once as a follow-up to other actions (like removing images from the folder, etc.) The only change in ACR was an update from 6.6 to 6.7 via Adobe Update. No other software has been used except Photoshop itself, and I removed the resulting TIFF files to a sub-folder early on in this adventure.

                     

                    I really appreciate your attention and analysis. Everything you have said is direct and logical. I suspect more and more that Bridge crashes broke files which were in process at the time. I still have not figured out why the crashes happened. In searching system logs, I have found that my Win7 install does have issues which I have yet to figure out. Besides the outright crash reports regarding Bridge, there are also repeated errors for some aspect of WMI. I currently have 3-4 tabs open in the browser which turned up discussions of the WMI problem, but that's a relatively obscure area of Windows for me and I'm still trying understand the remedies suggested. Unfortunately, I have to extrapolate because most of them refer to XP or Vista. I have no idea if that error situation connects with my Bridge problems.

                     

                    At this point I'm adding CR2 files and their associated XMP's back one pair at a time. I got too bold about adding groups for a while and had trouble pinning down which file(s) were at fault. I've spent most of the day on this, and still have something like 150 images to go. These were shot on a trip on a friend's sailboat from winter storage, down (or up, really) the Chicago River to Lake Michigan and the boat's summer harbor. There are something like 560 of them--I had lots of time on my hands waiting for various downtown bridges to open. It was a great opportunity to see the city from a totally different angle. The bridges were fantastic, if sometimes balky.

                     

                    Thanks again, very much. I will try your suggested experiment with switching XMP files between images. Good thought, there.

                    • 7. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                      Kieren13 Level 1

                      Having found all the cases of good and bad metadata, I started experimenting with putting back known defective XMP files a few at a time. What I found is that reopening the corresponding images in ACR, tweaking any parameter, and clicking "Done" corrects whatever was wrong with the metadata.

                       

                      My best guess now is that some files' XMPs were corrupted when Bridge/ACR crashed, and that the crashes were possibly the result of a beta graphics driver. Time will tell if any more crashes occur. None have since I put in the latest Release version of the nVidia drivers.

                       

                      My thanks again to ssprengel for some very cogent thoughts and suggestions which helped me find my way through this situation.

                       

                       

                      EDIT: I have to reconsider the possible cause(s?) of Bridge crashing. It happened again yesterday, again with the Faulting Module shown in the logs as ACE.DLL. I found reference to something like this in the Reader forum, with the suggestion that multiple versions of ACE might be at fault. Time will tell if making all the instances of ACE the same cures the problem.

                       

                      At this point it seems that I should put further comments/questions in the Bridge forum.

                      • 8. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                        Kieren13 Level 1

                        I have made an interesting observation. It seems that folders which contain RAW files (at least CR2 files), which have adjustments on the Lens Corrections>Manual>Transform section of ACR are the ones which spontaneously regenerate a handful of images any time such a folder, open in Bridge, comes into system focus, an image is selected, previewed, or otherwise poked at.

                         

                        I realized that the folder mentioned above, of a boat trip on which I was pointing up at almost everything, might be the first time I had ever used that part of Lens Corrections. This behavior does not occur on files with Lens Profile corrections.

                         

                        I had gone back to a previous shoot to continue post-processing. These photos were taken on a few days stay in a state park. They are almost all landscapes. On one shot I had let the horizon have an unfortunate tilt. Just using the Straighten Tool cropped out some important elements. It occurred to me that using Lens Corrections>Manual>Transform>Horizontal might help fix things. It did allow a comfortable composition compromise. But subsequently I started seeing the same spontaneous rebuilding of thumbnails, previews, and full size versions of about 3 images. It seems that this does not relate to how many images have these adjustments, just that one such file exists in the folder. When I moved the XMP file for that image out of the folder there no longer was constant rebuilding of previews.

                         

                        I know this now belongs in the Bug Reports or Bridge forum, but I started here, and all the preceding info is here.

                        • 10. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                          ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          Can you zip up two example files, one with problems and one not, and their corresponding XMPs, upload them to www.dropbox.com or www.yousendit.com, then post the public download link, here?  If you have found a bug then the situation should be repeatable for others, and Adobe might be able to determine the cause.

                           

                          When you say “rebuild continuously” what is your evidence of this?  Do thumbnails go gray/blurry/show-camera-embedded-4:3-jpg and then change to the ACR version, again, and this happens over and over while the Bridge is the front app, or do you have a file-system-watcher program that shows the files being continuously accessed along with the Bridge cache file for the folder, or what do you see?  I am asking because I wonder if there is some sort of OpenGL or DirectX or whatever video-card transfer of the images going on and this is inordinately slow on your computer system so you notice it and the previews, themselves, are not rebuilt, just the display of them is disrupted—a video problem, not a raw-engine or Bridge-caching problem.

                           

                          Another thought is that ACR 6.7 and ACR 7.x and LR 4.1 (not sure about LR 4.0) all have a bug where the application of any lens transformations causes the new toning to use the edges of the original uncorrected image, not the corrected image edges to as boundaries for the extent of where the white/black/shadows/highlights affect.  Depending on what is wrong with the internals of this, perhaps it is a data-corruption bug that could be doing all sorts of other weird things.

                           

                          Are any of these files on a network drive where the timestamp of the files is determined by another system (the server that hosts the files) not the local system, and the time is off on the server compared to the local computer—a DST or Timezone or clock-drift issue , so Bridge/ACR thinks the files don’t have a current thumbnail/preview/1:1 and they get rebuilt but are already deemed out of date due to the time problem.

                           

                          Finally, it seemed that you’d fixed the problem by updating the XMP with any other ACR adjustment.  As of last night, are you saying that this is not the case, and the problem always occurs when there is a manual lens adjustment?

                          • 11. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                            jeffbanke

                            Interesting reading as I am suffering the same problems

                            • 12. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                              Kieren13 Level 1

                              Hi, and thanks,

                               

                              I have to be brief at the moment. Starting at the end of your post, I thought that I had found a solution. I turned out to be wrong. Subsequently accessing that folder in Bridge caused (partial) rebuilding to start up again. My evidence of rebuilding comes in the status bar at the lower left of Bridge where it counts down Thumbnails, Previews, and Full Size which it is rebuilding. This also shows up in heavy CPU usage. All files are on internal HDDs. The video card, an nVidia GTX 460, 1GB, Rev. 1, does not seem to be involved in preview extraction. I run MSI Afterburner which shows GPU usage. I have experimented with OpenGL turned on and off in Photoshop, and with "Use Software Rendering" on and off in Bridge preferences without any differences.

                               

                              In the second post above your current response I described using Lens Corrections>Manual>Transform on a single image in a folder and subsequently having Bridge start doing a smaller scale rebuild after a preview, etc. Removing the XML which contained Transform>Horizontal adjustment and clearing the cache for that file made extractions stop, except when an image's settings had be changed.

                               

                              I will pull together examples of files, though I no longer think of some metadata being "bad". However, I am confident that I can provide a file whose presence provokes rebuilding on my system, along with an example of those which don't.

                               

                              I also note that I downloaded and installed the PS CS6 demo last night. I copied some folders of processed RAW files, with and without "Tilt and Shift" corrections. I am seeing the same behavior in Bridge CS6-64 bit.

                               

                              Thanks again,

                              I'll try to get back with examples as soon as I can get them together.

                               

                              Message was edited by: Kieren13 to add a few more details.

                              • 13. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                                ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                Sounds good.   One further clarification, does the rebuilding happen no matter if you are using ACR 7.0 or ACR 7.1 RC or if you are using PV2010 or PV2012?

                                • 14. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                                  Kieren13 Level 1

                                  Hello again,

                                   

                                  I am trying to set up a reproduction of the problem to show here and in the Community Forum to another respondant. Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to do so. I created a duplicate folder tree with a few of the files from the "problem folder" but this test case now stubbornly works without the rebuilding. The original "problem folder" still does. This is true in CS5 and CS6 when I copied the entire folder. I am still working on it.

                                   

                                  It seems that every time I have a theory on this situation I end up having to discard it. This doubles the frustration and adds embarrassment to the mix.

                                   

                                  I can't give a good answer to your question re: PV2010 vs PV2012. I have only used ACR 7.0 so far, but I changed to PV2012 right at first in my CS6 test folder. Consequently, I don't really have a "clean" test case with single changes between checking for the rebuilding behavior.

                                   

                                  I really appreciate you keeping up with this. I'm trying to narrow my efforts to be as scientific about it as I can. If I can produce something which seems to be a good test case I will upload it and post the link. [Insert icon for banging head on desk here.]

                                  • 15. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                                    ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    So the files, in the context of the other files in the folder, have a problem, but not alone.  You could try copying all the XMP files to a new folder and a few of the RAWs to see if it is an interaction of the XMPs that is causing the problem.   I forget if you are on a Mac or a PC.  If you are on a PC, there are special problems if they are under your desktop folder and the desktop has too many items on it.  You might try copying the entire folder of files to a folder one down off the root of the hard-drive or even to another hard-drive to see if it is path-length related or hard-drive related.

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    I think the free versions of YouSendIt and Dropbox have reasonably high limits like 1 or 2 GB so it might be possible to upload a Zip of a smaller subset that would demonstrate the problem for others.   Downloading 2GB across a fast connection only takes a few minutes, so it’d probably take longer for you to upload then others to download.

                                    • 16. Re: ACR v 6.7.0.339 rebuilds previews for one folder repeatedly
                                      Kieren13 Level 1

                                      Hi ssprengel,

                                       

                                      I will take up your suggestions as soon as I can. I sort of have to let things rest on this front for a bit and take care of other things. At this point, there is only one folder affected. This is annoying because it steals CPU cycles, but only in that folder and in a duplicate of it which I made to experiment with. Trouble is, at the moment, that I cannot make other folders act the same way. I have considered size of the folder (559 images) as a possible contributing factor, and split my test folder into two. That did not change the behavior on either part.

                                       

                                      At one point another folder started acting up, and I made it stop by removing the ACR Transform settings on the one file which had them. I have now gone back to that folder and put the settings back in, and it behaves normally. I am at a loss as to providing what might be reproduceable examples for others to check out.

                                       

                                      To respond to some other items in your post:

                                       

                                      The computer is a PC, AMD Phenom II x6 1090T, 16 GB RAM. There are about 6 TB of drive space on 4 drives. The RAW file folder trees are in root level folders on non-boot drives, and the main collection is on a different physical drive from my test setup.

                                       

                                      Once again, I greatly appreciate that thought and attention you have put into this conundrum. I will return to this issue when I get some other things out of the way, and post any items which seem significant. The single greatest accomplishment would be posting files which others could experiment with, but right now my only instances of the problem take place in folders containing from 5 to 12 GB. This poses obvious problems! I have a fast cable connection and know of some file drop sites where I could upload chunks which stay under the individual file limits. But I hesitate to put that much material out there.

                                       

                                      I have pounded my head against this problem so much lately that I think I need to step back and come at it with a clearer mind.

                                       

                                      Many Thanks!

                                      Kieren