Couple of things.
First, Premiere Pro is not color managed like After Effects. (At least prior to CS6 it was not. But I haven't yet seen anything to suggest that CS6 is, so I assume it still isn't.)
Second, are you using a properly calibrated external TV for the CC and grading?
Third, you need to be viewing the output on that same calibrated TV to judge it. You can't use your computer monitor or QuickTime player for quality control. There's just too many variables and things that can affect the video.
Thanks Jim....yes, i'm covered on all cc monitors and quite used ot viewing output on color calibrated...as well viewing both on the same platform/monitor....The BIG question is PrPr being able to do color work---and my question is why would it have all the color effects if it did not? But i agree with you....first place to start is can you do proper color work on PrPr AT ALL? no problem to do a quick web video...but can you properly color a for television product---I seem to think NO....i could not get colors in end to match....i can view out on PrPr view my I/O box (Matrox MXO2) and see great colors that i colored the project on to my FSI color corrected monitor....but then when i view the ProRes file back (not on PrPro)...but on it's own with its own codec engine...this is where things go awry and stray from colors i originally put on the images...
But this is a PARAMOUNT subject as Pr is offering coloring....i hate to bring this in, but in FCP i can get accurate colors on my Matrox and same when rendered out to Prores file....Again, i think Apple plays well with apple.....but as you say, there are a great number of varialbes involved in the preferences etc...within PrPr...seems to me AE may be better just by reading about it...but why not both?
one thing that stood out...
You can't use your computer monitor or QuickTime player for quality control.
So are you saying/suggesting that when viewing my FINAL prorest output using QT 7 or X....i CANNOT judge the color rendition based on Player? So....i actualy MIGHT be getting good color matching in the end even if it looks different in QT player vs PrPro..?
my FINAL prorest output using QT 7 or X....i CANNOT judge the color rendition based on Player? So....i actualy MIGHT be getting good color matching in the end even if it looks different in QT player vs PrPro..?
Exactly. Software players, graphics drivers, even the OS itself can all affect how the video appears on your monitor. That's why you do Quality Control only on an external, calibrated TV.
Now, I'm not saying there is no problem here. I'm only saying that until you have the variables eliminated, you just won't know if there is a problem with the footage.
yes...this i get about calibrated monitors....and both QT and PrPro are playing out ot a calibrated monitor....i was kind of hoping that QT might be the problem....but i really doubt it since i've been delivering those for 12 years now....but kind of wishful thinking after a giant coloring project....I'm betting that this is a PrPro thing....sure seems it's not the place to do color work and if it is....then not very intuitive. But that said...apple has issues with going to prores from other codecs as i've seen.
*would sure be a topic worth getting to a starting point here regardless for any of us doing color work to get results of work put into the coloring.....
Pardon me for skimming the thread and posting, but I'm seeing a comparison of PR and QT displaying the same video file. Have you tried comparing QT7, QTX, VLC, and any other ways to view this footage? At a minimum, that would provide you more context on whether or not Premiere is doing the right thing.
The other test is injesting Premiere's render into other systems that support this footage. Does it display the same in this application as it does in Premiere?