4 Replies Latest reply on May 23, 2012 1:39 PM by gfmarsh

    Coordinating Multiple Tracks on an iPad tablet

    gfmarsh Level 1

      I think this is an After Effects issue rather than an a Mocha AE issue, but I am trying to make two different tracks work with each other to give the illusion that a hand is dragging and dropping items on a iPad tablet that has been green screened. The problem lies in making the two tracks work together, one for the finger and one for the hand held tablet itself. The finger track needs to stay locked to the axis and position of the screen otherwise it twists in a unrealistic direction since I can't get it to follow thet tablet surface properly. I currrently have a shape in AE parented to the iPad null. The iPad null then parents to the hand null following the position of the hand null. Perhaps its an anchor point issue, but I'm still getting a lot of drift using this method. Logically I'm thinking this should work, but it doesn't as the two tracks don't seem to work with each other. If anyone has done this before, your assistance would be a great help.

        • 1. Re: Coordinating Multiple Tracks on an iPad tablet
          Mylenium Most Valuable Participant

          You will probably need some expressions. The two tracks simply don't know about each other and your coordinates are in both cases based on the "neutral" initial footage.



          • 2. Re: Coordinating Multiple Tracks on an iPad tablet
            gfmarsh Level 1

            Yes, I was thinking of that as a possibility, but I don't know what expression would work.

            I may use a 3D tracker instead like Synth Eyes.




            • 3. Re: Coordinating Multiple Tracks on an iPad tablet
              Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              You should stabilize the shot of the iPad so there's no movement. Then track your finger and add the objects. Then reintroduce the motion to the shot and the track.  It is simple if you break it down and you have planned the shot well enough. 


              If you post the shot on YouTube I'll send you a soluton in a day or so.

              • 4. Re: Coordinating Multiple Tracks on an iPad tablet
                gfmarsh Level 1

                I didn't think of stabilizing it, but I'd probably need Mocha Pro for a good stabilizer.  But I actually got it to work using Mocha AE, I duplicated the Fill layer that contains the iPad motion track, including corner pin, all the position scale and rotational data. I then masked off the area that I want to create as a drag and drop item next to where the finger is touching the screen. After creating a null in AE with the finger tracking data from Mocha AE, I used an expression (thisComp.layer("Finger Null").transform.position) on my Fill layer simply by using the pickwhip to reference the position of the Finger Null. It's not hard once you know what to do. I haven't used expressions too much myself which probably made this task harder to figure out. I should point out that the new drag & drop item that now tracks the finger doesn't at this point correspond to the scaling inherent in the perspective, but it does follow the rotation nicely and really creates the illusion that the icon is following the finger at the surface of the iPad Screen. Perhaps there might be a work around using another way other than the mask without having to use a 3D tracker like Synth Eyes. Might look into this a little more.


                Here's the final test comp: