2 Replies Latest reply on May 31, 2012 2:14 PM by Kieren13

    TIFF & JPEG renders of RAW files appear different when viewed in Bridge

    Kieren13

      I am working with the demo of Photoshop CS6, with ACR 7.1. CS6 System Info will appear at the bottom of this post. Summary: AMD Phenom II x6 1090T, 16GB RAM, Win7-64bit, nVidia GTX 460 video w/1GB RAM, approx. 2.5 TB free space on multiple internal physical drives, Canon 50D, CR2 files. I have a camera profile generated through Profile Editor, and the monitor is calibrated with i-1 Match.

       

      I have been practicing with the new Basic Panel controls (Process 2012). When I felt that I was getting the hang of them I started saving JPEG and TIFF files and noticed differences between what appears in Bridge and ACR. I worked on this for some time and searched out some other discussions in the Forum which seemed to talk about similar results. I have now tried Image Processor via Bridge, Save Image in ACR, and Open>Save manually in PS CS6. By whatever route, the TIFFs and JPEGs are different (lighter in the following examples, but this is not always the case), while PSD saves seem to be close, but not identical to the CR2 when viewed in Bridge or Photoshop. Here is a screen capture of Bridge thumbnails which show the differences.

      Thumbs_Multiformat_02.JPG

      I hope the labels come through legibly. The two images on the second row are CR2 and PSD respectively. What is really odd to me is that when I resaved the PSD file as a TIFF, the same sort of difference shows up in the TIFF. (See _MG_7960_via_PSD.tif above.) I have uploaded the CR2, its XMP, a TIFF and a JPEG on Sendspace (107 MB). I did this earlier in my experiments and regret that the file naming is not as informative as might be.

      http://www.sendspace.com/file/t0lhko

       

      I have run a few other ACR adjusted CR2 images through Image Processor and seen a variety of differences between the rendered files and the RAW versions. The differences seem to be in Exposure and Contrast. Most of these looked somewhat darker, unlike the examples above.

       

      I will happily provide any other information on request. Thanks!

       

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        • 1. Re: TIFF & JPEG renders of RAW files appear different when viewed in Bridge
          NormanPCN

          Do you have the apply Auto Tone option checked? I noticed, and reported a Bridge bug is CS5, when auto tone was checked. It may still be around.

           

          IF prefs were set to open jpef/tiff in ACR *IF* the files has ACR settings (aka an XMP file), *AND* auto tone was checked *THEN* auto tone was applied to Bridge thumbnails even if the jpef/tiff did not have ACR settings. Therefore the thumnail/preview looked different than when opened in photoshop and such. The thumbnail had the auto tone and the opened file did not.

           

          -Norman

          • 2. Re: TIFF & JPEG renders of RAW files appear different when viewed in Bridge
            Kieren13 Level 1

            Thanks very much for that lead, NormanPCN. I do have Auto Tone checked, though the rendered files in the example above do not have XMP sidecars. I will try unchecking Auto Tone even so, and post back when I see what happens.

             

            Thanks again,

            Kieren

             

            EDIT: Bingo! I took Auto Tone off in ACR Preferences (in Bridge) and the non-RAW files immediately regenerated thumbs and previews. They now are indistinguishable from the PSD. There is still the very slight difference which I mentioned between the PSD and the CR2. While that seems odd, it is small enough to be relatively trivial.

             

            Many thanks!

             

            Thumbnail view w/o Auto:

             

            Thumbs_NoAuto.JPG