15 Replies Latest reply: Jul 3, 2012 9:00 AM by conroy RSS

    Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format

    gerhard..tinned

      I have got a number of photoshop files which i cannot use because i dont have Photoshop. So i downloaded the trail version of Photoshop (MacOSX) to convert them to something that i can use with other programs.

       

      My question is now ... What file format can i export them to?

       

      I need a format that keeps all the information about the layers and all the other stuff - So i guess this is called workable file. What format does exist in Photoshop so that i can export it for later use with any other (means NON-Adobe) programm?

       

      Thanks for your help.

       

      (recreated from http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1026516)

        • 1. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
          Mylenium ACP/MVPs

          I need a format that keeps all the information about the layers and all the other stuff - So i guess this is called workable file. What format does exist in Photoshop so that i can export it for later use with any other (means NON-Adobe) programm?

           

          The short version: It doesn't exist. Long version: Handling of layered formats is handled quite differently in different programs. On the bright side, many programs will handle PSD files even with layers, including some image viewers like XnView, IrfanView or free image editing tools like GIMP with a pertinent file loader or commercial programs like Corel or Quark, but this requires to use the "maximum compatibility" option enabled and of course you will lose any PS specific features like editable text layers and layer styles or smart objects - they will be rasterized. Also other programs may not support things like alternate color models or certain color profiling information. In addition to the native PSD format, pretty much your only other options include layered TIFFs or PDF files with "layers", but the same limitations apply and make no mistake - they may call it PDF "layers", but it works differently and wil lresult in even more loss of editable data.

           

          Mylenium

          • 2. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
            c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

            Mylenium has already elaborated.

             

            But whether the non-Adobe-program you want to use (and the name of which you seem to prefer not to tell us) can process what you refer to as

            all the other stuff

            is not really up to Photoshop, I guess.

            • 3. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
              gerhard..tinned Community Member

              Hi!

               

              First of all i use a Mac with Mac OS X so Windows tools will not help me. :-(

               

              I have received all the photoshop files and had no need to change them until now. I have played around with photoshop and know more less how i can do my changes with it. But i have not jet desided for any other application to work with the images jet.

               

              If you have any suggestions for an application that can manipulate the images with all its layers, please let me know as well.

               

              The only thing i have seen is that GIMP on Mac OS X is a pain because of all the X11 behaviour. And all the text layers i had where somehow converted to other types of layers where i could not edit the text anymore. That is a problem for me. :-(

               

              But in total, i am not so deep into image editing and photoshop. So please give me all your idears you have!! :-)

              • 4. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                Mylenium ACP/MVPs

                You encountered the exact limitations I was explaining. You will be hard-pressed to find any serious alternative so perhaps you might at least consider a Creative Cloud subscription with a month to month plan? This gives you all the Adobe programs and while it may sound like trying to get people on the hook, I can't think of an easier way to solve the dilemma. As an alternative, you can always export the layers to separate files (there's a layers to file script somewhere), but it will impose the same limitations and you will still need a program to reassemble those layers. In a way it's like trading one problem for another....

                 

                Mylenium

                • 5. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                  gerhard..tinned Community Member

                  I am an open source developer. So you can imagine that this is a amount of money i can not afford so easy as it sounds. Specially no monthly cost.

                   

                  So i guess Photoshop is a oneway street. That is bad for me. :-(

                   

                  Let me check if i understood it completely.

                   

                  - Most of the basic features like the Layers in general and the components should work in most modern grafic apps even in Gimp or similar.

                  - Specific photoshop features like the text layers and others will not work in other programms then Photoshop.

                  - But, specific photoshop informations are not necessary lost, they get interpreted as different layer types.

                    Example: text-layer are kind of converted to rasterized-layer - so no text editing is available anymore.

                   

                  Correct so far?

                  • 6. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                    PECourtejoie ACP

                    Hello, there are alternatives: the best one, would be to stay in an Adobe workflow: photoshop elements: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements.html

                    If you just need to convert the files to flat ones, graphicconverter would help you: http://www.lemkesoft.com

                    Yes, your assumptions are correct. I would recommend to work on a copy of the files to maintain their integrity, and avoid losing features.

                    • 7. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                      I second Pierre's recommendation for Photoshop Elements.

                       

                      In this area, it should be able to do everything that you want and need, is ported for the Mac, and is not expensive (actually some certified resellers are putting it on "sale," as PSE 11 will likely be released in about Sept, or Oct.). About the only limitation with what I think you have, and need to do, is the inability to CREATE Layer Sets, but you already HAVE the Layers there, so should not even come into play.

                       

                      Now, another limitation is that it cannot output to CMYK for commercial printing, but most print shops can take any RGB and convert to CMYK, so still no "deal breaker."

                       

                      Good luck, and if you go the PSE route, there is an active forum for that particular program, with tons of helpful people, like Barb_B and Barb_O.

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                        Mylenium ACP/MVPs

                        Most of the basic features like the Layers in general and the components should work in most modern grafic apps even in Gimp or similar.

                         

                        Correct. A PSD saved with the "maximum compatibility" option will contain rasterized versions of each layer as a fallback that otehr programs may be able to use.

                        But, specific photoshop informations are not necessary lost, they get interpreted as different layer types.

                        Example: text-layer are kind of converted to rasterized-layer - so no text editing is available anymore.

                         

                        Actually it's the same as above - the layers do not get converted, the programs will simply use the rasterized data Photoshop created in the first place.

                         

                        Mylenium

                        • 9. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                          gerhard..tinned Community Member

                          Hi!

                           

                          Ichecked with the Adobe chat support and they told me that Photoshop Elements will not be able to open or manipulate PSD files. So according to them the Photoshop Elements is not a cheaper alternative.

                          • 10. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                            gerhard..tinned Community Member

                            PECourtejoie wrote:

                             

                            Hello, there are alternatives: the best one, would be to stay in an Adobe workflow: photoshop elements: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements.html

                            If you just need to convert the files to flat ones, graphicconverter would help you: http://www.lemkesoft.com

                            Yes, your assumptions are correct. I would recommend to work on a copy of the files to maintain their integrity, and avoid losing features.

                             

                            Basically that is the point .. I want to keep it editable in any way. I can not afford to spend hundreds of Euros or Dollars for such a Program. But i would need the possibility to change the text layers in the PSD files i have as well as changing some minor other things.

                             

                            As it seems there is no alternative to the Photoshop. :-( As mentioned also the adobe chat support told me that the Photoshop Elements will not be able to open PSD files. So if this is true, ... then there is no way around the Photoshop. That means for me that i can not edit them ever again! :-(

                            • 11. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                              c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

                              Whatever gave you the idea in the first place that Photoshop should be able to produce files in a format so that some other application could interpret all of the content correctly and completely?

                              For example in Photoshop CS6 there is a new Adjustment Layer available – Photoshop CS5 can either flatten a psd-file containing it or the effect of the Layer will be lost upon opening in Photoshop CS5.

                               

                              And your explanation of which features you would actually need to stay editable

                              But i would need the possibility to change the text layers in the PSD files i have as well as changing some minor other things.

                              seems vague in the extreme.

                               

                              Mylenium has already pointed to a free alternative to Photoshop, so why do you insist on pursuing this option?

                              • 12. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                                Noel Carboni Community Member

                                gerhard..tinned wrote:

                                 

                                Ichecked with the Adobe chat support and they told me that Photoshop Elements will not be able to open or manipulate PSD files.

                                 

                                That's kind of wrong.

                                 

                                There are features you may have in your documents that Elements cannot do (such as 16 bits/channel images with layers), but Elements is at home saving/opening PSD files as its big brother.  If you try to open a PSD file with 16 bit layers it will ask if you want to convert to 8 bit.

                                 

                                -Noel

                                • 13. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                                  Photoshop Elements will not be able to open or manipulate PSD files

                                   

                                  That is incorrect. PSD is the native format for both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements. With Layered PSD's, the one limitation of PSElements is the inability to create Layer Sets, but PSE can edit them.

                                   

                                  An example is the DVD and BD Menus/Menues Sets, that come with, and are used with, Adobe Encore and Adobe Premiere Elements. In a DVD/BD Menu/Menu Set, the Buttons are PSD Layer Sets. Also, most other elements, that one sees in the Menus, are just PSD Layers.

                                   

                                  I think that Live Chat was either confused, or did not have experience with PSD files in PSElements.

                                   

                                  Good luck,

                                   

                                  Hunt

                                  • 14. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                                    gerhard..tinned Community Member

                                    That is now interesting ...

                                     

                                    I am sorry but i am now confused.

                                     

                                    The Adobe people on the live chat told me it is not possible ...

                                     

                                    You tell me it is possible ... (personally i thought it should be possible as well)

                                     

                                    ...

                                    • 15. Re: Converting my photoshop files to a non-adobe program readable format
                                      conroy Community Member

                                      How about getting the Trial version of Elements and seeing exactly what it does and doesn't do?