3 Replies Latest reply on Jun 29, 2012 9:49 PM by Chris Cox

    How do I integrate SpeedGrade into my Photoshop workflow?

    jrudy77

      This will likely sound insane, since SpeedGrade is obviously geared toward video projects, and Photoshop toward processing of still photos, but please hear me out.

       

      I love Photosop CS6, and my absolute favorite new feature is the Color Lookup adjustment layer. So far, I've been extremely happy with the effects I've been able to pull off by combining that with other adjustment layers, channel work, etc.

       

      However, I've gotten to the point where I realize that my next step -- much like a user who graduates up from using actions he/she downloads off of DeviantArt -- is to make my own color lookup tables. The only tool at my disposal for this is SpeedGrade. (I have a CS6 cloud membership -- off topic, but way to go, Adobe, that made it feasible for me to "graduate" from only having Photoshop CS5.1 to having the full suite at a very reasonable price!)

       

      I've used SpeedGrade on video clips I've shot with my Canon 5D MkII to great effect. Nothing I'd post publicly yet (I'm still learning how to shoot motion), but I considered the results to be very positive. I've managed to save several test .look files, as well, both on video footage and still images (JPGs, to be specific).

       

      I always shoot RAW, and my usual workflow is to start in Aperture (I'm a Mac user), do some basic RAW adjustments, then export a 16-bit PSD and get down to the real work in Photoshop. SpeedGrade doesn't yet seem to support PSDs natively, so in order to create a .look which is appropriate for my image, it currently looks like I need to export a JPG (down to 8-bit sRGB, ugh) from Photoshop, then open THAT in SpeedGrade, do my work, save my .look, go BACK into Photoshop, and use the .look file there.

       

      I could live with that if -- IF -- the .look file actually gave me my expected results. However, the only time the .look behaves exactly the same in Photoshop as it does in SpeedGrade seems to be if I open the image as a JPG -- thus losing all my layers, adjustments, smart objects, etc. When I apply any of my .look files to a PSD, they come entirely too dark, every time. Many of them have simply turned an image into a large 22 megapixel black rectangle.

       

      So my question is this: How do I make a SpeedGrade .look file behave predictably in Photoshop, in a 16-bit-per-channel PSD file? I'm OK with changing the color space if I have to (even if it's to sRGB, the bane of my existence) -- but I need to see the same thing in SG that I do in PS. Is this possible today, or am I waiting on the next SG release? Or, and I assume this to be the case -- as I'm a software engineer by trade, and know that this is almost always the case! -- is this a case of user error? And if so, what can I do to correct my user error?

       

      Or, sacriligious as it may seem since I have all of Adobe's tools, are there other Mac-based products I can use to create color lookup files compatible with Photoshop?

       

      In case it matters, here's my platform:

       

      • Canon 5D MkII, latest firmware, always shoot RAW
      • Apple Aperture 3.2.3 (sorry, Adobe, but ... y'know.)
      • Mac OS 10.7 (late 2011 MacBook Pro 17", 16 GB RAM)
      • Adobe Creative Suite 6 Cloud Subscription (photo, illustration, video tools installed; no Flash nor web tools)
        • 1. Re: How do I integrate SpeedGrade into my Photoshop workflow?
          the_wine_snob Level 9

          I did not realize that SpeedGrade was also a plug-in for PS. I only knew it in Premiere Pro.

           

          When you go to use it in PS, what happens?

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: How do I integrate SpeedGrade into my Photoshop workflow?
            Level 7

            Speedgrade does some funny things converting the image encoding with video, jpegs, exr files, etc.

            Unfortunately, I never found documentation of exact what they do with each input format.

             

            Sometimes they seem to convert the image data to linear (gamma 1.0) before processing, and sometimes they leave it alone.

            So, it is possible, if you can figure out the rules that SpeedGrade is using, and if you can figure out all the controls in SpeedGrade.

            As you may have noticed, that is not an application for a casual user :-)

             

            Also, Photoshop only uses the color part of the .look - not the blurring or vignetting stuff that SpeedGrade can also do.

             

            Now, I'd keep at it -- it took me about a week to learn the basics of SpeedGrade (even if I didn't figure it all out).

            But in the end, I wrote my own tools to create most of the color lookup presets that ship with Photoshop CS6 (because it was easier in some cases, and because no tool existed to do what I wanted in a few cases).

             

            Yes, before you ask, I'm trying to figure out ways to make my tools more user friendly so we could include them in Photoshop.

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            • 3. Re: How do I integrate SpeedGrade into my Photoshop workflow?
              Level 7

              SpeedGrade is not a plugin, but a stand alone application.

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