19 Replies Latest reply on Jul 17, 2012 8:29 PM by station_two

    plug-ins don't work in PSCS6

    Chuck Warner Level 1

      I just installed the trial version of PSCS6 using win xp pro sp3 32 bit. Plug-ins I added  to the plug-in folder don't show up in the filter menu after re-start. Why?

        • 1. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
          Jeff A Wright Adobe Employee

          Moving this discussion to the Photoshop General Discussion forum.

          • 2. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
            Noel Carboni Level 8

            Many plug-ins depend on other files (for example, DLLs), often put by the plug-in's installer in the Photoshop installation folder itself.  Also, some plug-ins do things they really shouldn't to try to integrate themselves more fully into Photoshop, and those things may have worked with an earlier version of Photoshop where now they do not.


            Could you be more specific about what plug-in(s) you're trying to use, where you got it/them, and where you're putting it/them?  Someone may have already identified the files involved and found a way to get the plug-in to work in Photoshop CS6.



            • 3. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
              the_wine_snob Level 9

              Along with the information that Noel gave, there is often much more to installing a plug-in, than just the .8BF (or similar) files. Many require a full installation, for them to work. Along with other necessary files, very often Registry entries must be made to.


              Do you have the installation discs, or downloaded files for these plug-ins (the ones that you are going to let Noel know more about)?


              Good luck,



              • 4. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                Chuck Warner Level 1

                My first plug-ins that I installed were obtained from the Adobe download site as listed in the PsCs6 help  menu. They were "drag and dropped" into: program files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\Plug-ins. They are in the plug-ins folder, but don't show up in the filters menu.

                • 5. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                  Noel Carboni Level 8

                  And what plug-ins would those be, exactly?


                  It should be clear to you that you're not providing enough information for people to give you meaningful answers.


                  I mean, we could guess that maybe you copied 64 bit plug-ins into your 32 bit Photoshop plug-ins folder, but we can't know.  Can you describe exactly what folder you got them from?



                  • 6. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                    Chuck Warner Level 1

                    From the PS6 help menu, I clicked "photoshop resources online" which took me to "Downloadable Content (Plug-ins)in Photoshop CS6". From there I downloaded and expanded a zip file which gave me a 32 and a 64 bit folder. As instructed, I drug the plug-ins from the 32 bit folder to the Photoshop CS6 plug-ins folder, then opened the program. They did not appear in the filters drop-down. I deleated and reinstalled Topaz remask 3 (which is 32 bit and works on my CS5) and made sure that it was in the plug-ins folder of PS 6. It failed to appear in my filters drop-down as well.




                    Downloadable Content (Plug-ins) in Photoshop CS6


                    • 7. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                      the_wine_snob Level 9

                      To parrot what Noel has said, especially when it comes to plug-ins, there are literally dozens of variables, and most of those variables can hold the answer to why your plug-ins are not showing.


                      I realize that it might be a bit daunting, and given the frustration that I would feel, seemingly useless, it can "tell the tale," regarding why the plug-ins do not show. The more detail that you can provide, the easier it will be for others to help solve the issue. It is not that we wish to be mean, or ask for unnecessary, convoluted info, but we're only trying to help.


                      Good luck, and please let us know the details of the plug-ins.



                      • 8. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                        Noel Carboni Level 8

                        Not every plug-in is a filter and is expected to show up in the Filters menu, hence our questions about which ones.


                        I'm not familiar with Topaz remask 3, but that doesn't sound like a filter plug-in either.


                        It's also possible you may have dragged the plug-ins from the 64 bit folder inadvertently.  Or possibly you dropped them into a folder that does not represent the current, active Photoshop installation.  Clearly something's amiss, and the greatest possibility is that you made a mistake in copying the files.


                        Implied in all this is that plug-ins actually do work in Photoshop CS6.  All the ones I've put in my plug-ins folder and subfolders work.


                        Let's try a different approach...  In Photoshop, choose Help - System Info.  Copy that data and post it here.  The plug-ins that Photoshop has recognized will show up in that listing, as well as some other info that could be helpful to this conversation.  You may want to delete the hash of your seral number, though it can't be used by anyone.



                        • 9. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                          Chuck Warner Level 1

                          Here it is:

                          Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00) x32

                          Operating System: Windows XP 32-bit

                          Version: 5.1 Service Pack 3

                          System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:15, Stepping:6 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3

                          Physical processor count: 2

                          Processor speed: 2133 MHz

                          Built-in memory: 3582 MB

                          Free memory: 1586 MB

                          Memory available to Photoshop: 1713 MB

                          Memory used by Photoshop: 60 %

                          Image tile size: 128K

                          Image cache levels: 4

                          OpenGL Drawing: Enabled.

                          OpenGL Drawing Mode: Normal

                          OpenGL Allow Normal Mode: True.

                          OpenGL Allow Advanced Mode: False.

                          OpenGL Allow Old GPUs: Not Detected.

                          Video Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation

                          Video Card Renderer: GeForce GT 520/PCI/SSE2

                          Display: 2

                          Display Bounds:=  top: 0, left: 1280, bottom: 1024, right: 2560

                          Display: 1

                          Display Bounds:=  top: 0, left: 0, bottom: 1024, right: 1280

                          Video Card Number: 1

                          Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520

                          OpenCL Unavailable

                          Driver Version:

                          Driver Date: 20110301043500.000000-000

                          Video Card Driver: nv4_disp.dll

                          Video Mode: 1280 x 1024 x 4294967296 colors

                          Video Card Caption: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520

                          Video Card Memory: 1024 MB

                          Video Rect Texture Size: 16384

                          Serial number: Tryout Version

                          Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\

                          Temporary file path: C:\DOCUME~1\Chuck\LOCALS~1\Temp\

                          Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled

                          Scratch volume(s):

                            C:\, 233.7G, 6.85G free

                            H:\, 1.36T, 1.06T free

                          Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\Required\

                          Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6\Plug-ins\

                          Additional Plug-ins folder: not set


                          Installed components:

                             A3DLIBS.dll   A3DLIB Dynamic Link Library  

                             ACE.dll   ACE 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             adbeape.dll   Adobe APE 2012/01/25-10:04:55   66.1025012   66.1025012

                             AdobeLinguistic.dll   Adobe Linguisitc Library   6.0.0  

                             AdobeOwl.dll   Adobe Owl 2012/02/09-16:00:02   4.0.93   66.496052

                             AdobePDFL.dll   PDFL 2011/12/12-16:12:37   66.419471   66.419471

                             AdobePIP.dll   Adobe Product Improvement Program  

                             AdobeXMP.dll   Adobe XMP Core 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

                             AdobeXMPFiles.dll   Adobe XMP Files 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

                             AdobeXMPScript.dll   Adobe XMP Script 2012/02/06-14:56:27   66.145661   66.145661

                             adobe_caps.dll   Adobe CAPS   6,0,29,0  

                             AGM.dll   AGM 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             ahclient.dll    AdobeHelp Dynamic Link Library   1,7,0,56  

                             aif_core.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             aif_ocl.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             aif_ogl.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             amtlib.dll   AMTLib (BuildVersion: 6.0; BuildDate: Mon Jan 16 2012 18:00:00)   1.000000

                             ARE.dll   ARE 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             AXE8SharedExpat.dll   AXE8SharedExpat 2011/12/16-15:10:49   66.26830   66.26830

                             AXEDOMCore.dll   AXEDOMCore 2011/12/16-15:10:49   66.26830   66.26830

                             Bib.dll   BIB 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             BIBUtils.dll   BIBUtils 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             boost_date_time.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             boost_signals.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             boost_system.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             boost_threads.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             cg.dll   NVIDIA Cg Runtime   3.0.00007  

                             cgGL.dll   NVIDIA Cg Runtime   3.0.00007  

                             CIT.dll   Adobe CIT

                             CoolType.dll   CoolType 2012/01/18-15:07:40   66.492997   66.492997

                             data_flow.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             dvaaudiodevice.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvacore.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvamarshal.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvamediatypes.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvaplayer.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvatransport.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dvaunittesting.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             dynamiclink.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             ExtendScript.dll   ExtendScript 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

                             FileInfo.dll   Adobe XMP FileInfo 2012/01/17-15:11:19   66.145433   66.145433

                             filter_graph.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             hydra_filters.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             icucnv40.dll   International Components for Unicode 2011/11/15-16:30:22    Build gtlib_3.0.16615  

                             icudt40.dll   International Components for Unicode 2011/11/15-16:30:22    Build gtlib_3.0.16615  

                             image_compiler.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             image_flow.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             image_runtime.dll   AIF   3.0   62.490293

                             JP2KLib.dll   JP2KLib 2011/12/12-16:12:37   66.236923   66.236923

                             libeay32.dll   The OpenSSL Toolkit   0.9.8g  

                             libifcoremd.dll   Intel(r) Visual Fortran Compiler   10.0 (Update A)  

                             libmmd.dll   Intel(r) C Compiler, Intel(r) C++ Compiler, Intel(r) Fortran Compiler   10.0  

                             LogSession.dll   LogSession  

                             mediacoreif.dll   DVA Product   6.0.0  

                             MPS.dll   MPS 2012/02/03-10:33:13   66.495174   66.495174

                             msvcm80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

                             msvcm90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

                             msvcp100.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2010   10.00.40219.1  

                             msvcp71.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET   7.10.3077.0  

                             msvcp80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

                             msvcp90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

                             msvcr100.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2010   10.00.40219.1  

                             msvcr71.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET   7.10.3052.4  

                             msvcr80.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2005   8.00.50727.6195  

                             msvcr90.dll   Microsoft® Visual Studio® 2008   9.00.30729.1  

                             pdfsettings.dll   Adobe PDFSettings   1.04  

                             Photoshop.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

                             Plugin.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

                             PlugPlug.dll   Adobe(R) CSXS PlugPlug Standard Dll (32 bit)  

                             PSArt.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

                             PSViews.dll   Adobe Photoshop CS6   CS6  

                             SCCore.dll   ScCore 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

                             ScriptUIFlex.dll   ScriptUIFlex 2011/12/14-15:08:46   66.490082   66.490082

                             shfolder.dll   Microsoft(R) Windows (R) 2000 Operating System   5.50.4027.300  

                             ssleay32.dll   The OpenSSL Toolkit   0.9.8g  

                             tbb.dll   Intel(R) Threading Building Blocks for Windows   3, 0, 2010, 0406  

                             tbbmalloc.dll   Intel(R) Threading Building Blocks for Windows   3, 0, 2010, 0406  

                             TfFontMgr.dll   FontMgr  

                             TfKernel.dll   Kernel  

                             TFKGEOM.dll   Kernel Geom  

                             TFUGEOM.dll   Adobe, UGeom©  

                             updaternotifications.dll   Adobe Updater Notifications Library (BuildVersion: 1.0; BuildDate: BUILDDATETIME)

                             WRServices.dll   WRServices Friday January 27 2012 13:22:12   Build 0.17112   0.17112

                             wu3d.dll   U3D Writer  



                          Required plug-ins:


                             Accented Edges 13.0

                             Adaptive Wide Angle 13.0

                             ADM 3.11x01

                             Angled Strokes 13.0

                             Average 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Bas Relief 13.0

                             BMP 13.0

                             Camera Raw 7.0

                             Chalk & Charcoal 13.0

                             Charcoal 13.0

                             Chrome 13.0

                             Cineon 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Clouds 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Collada 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Color Halftone 13.0

                             Colored Pencil 13.0

                             CompuServe GIF 13.0

                             Conté Crayon 13.0

                             Craquelure 13.0

                             Crop and Straighten Photos 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 13.0

                             Crosshatch 13.0

                             Crystallize 13.0

                             Cutout 13.0

                             Dark Strokes 13.0

                             De-Interlace 13.0

                             Dicom 13.0

                             Difference Clouds 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Diffuse Glow 13.0

                             Displace 13.0

                             Dry Brush 13.0

                             Eazel Acquire 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Embed Watermark 4.0

                             Entropy 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Extrude 13.0

                             FastCore Routines 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Fibers 13.0

                             Film Grain 13.0

                             Filter Gallery 13.0

                             Fresco 13.0

                             Glass 13.0

                             Glowing Edges 13.0

                             Grain 13.0

                             Graphic Pen 13.0

                             Halftone Pattern 13.0

                             HDRMergeUI 13.0

                             IFF Format 13.0

                             Ink Outlines 13.0

                             JPEG 2000 13.0

                             Kurtosis 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Lens Blur 13.0

                             Lens Correction 13.0

                             Lens Flare 13.0

                             Liquify 13.0

                             Matlab Operation 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Maximum 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Mean 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Measurement Core 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Median 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Mezzotint 13.0

                             Minimum 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             MMXCore Routines 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Mosaic Tiles 13.0

                             Multiprocessor Support 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Neon Glow 13.0

                             Note Paper 13.0

                             NTSC Colors 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Ocean Ripple 13.0

                             Oil Paint 13.0

                             OpenEXR 13.0

                             Paint Daubs 13.0

                             Palette Knife 13.0

                             Patchwork 13.0

                             Paths to Illustrator 13.0

                             PCX 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Photocopy 13.0

                             Photoshop 3D Engine 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Picture Package Filter 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Pinch 13.0

                             Pixar 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Plaster 13.0

                             Plastic Wrap 13.0

                             PNG 13.0

                             Pointillize 13.0

                             Polar Coordinates 13.0

                             Portable Bit Map 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Poster Edges 13.0

                             Radial Blur 13.0

                             Radiance 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Range 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Read Watermark 4.0

                             Reticulation 13.0

                             Ripple 13.0

                             Rough Pastels 13.0

                             Save for Web 13.0

                             ScriptingSupport 13.0

                             Shear 13.0

                             Skewness 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Smart Blur 13.0

                             Smudge Stick 13.0

                             Solarize 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Spatter 13.0

                             Spherize 13.0

                             Sponge 13.0

                             Sprayed Strokes 13.0

                             Stained Glass 13.0

                             Stamp 13.0

                             Standard Deviation 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Sumi-e 13.0

                             Summation 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Targa 13.0

                             Texturizer 13.0

                             Tiles 13.0

                             Torn Edges 13.0

                             Twirl 13.0

                             Underpainting 13.0

                             Vanishing Point 13.0

                             Variance 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Variations 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Water Paper 13.0

                             Watercolor 13.0

                             Wave 13.0

                             WIA Support 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Wind 13.0

                             Wireless Bitmap 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             ZigZag 13.0


                          Optional and third party plug-ins:


                             Alias PIX 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             ElectricImage 13.0

                             Fluid Mask 3

                             HSB/HSL 13.0

                             Lighting Effects Classic 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             SGI RGB 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             SoftImage 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                             Wavefront RLA 13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00)

                          Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE


                             Mini Bridge


                          Installed TWAIN devices: NONE


                          Note: Fluid mask shows up in the filters drop-down, even though I didn't put it in the plug-ins folder, however, it doesn't work. Topaz remask 3 is indeed a plug-in and is in my PsCS 5 plug-ins folder and is fully functional there in that 32 bit environment.


                          Thanks for trying to help,


                          • 10. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                            Noel Carboni Level 8

                            From the sound of it, you're expecting all plug-ins to be filter plug-ins and thus appear in the Filters menu.


                            • Alias PIX seems to be a file format plug-in.  That means it will add the ability to read/write Alias .pix format files in the File - Open and File - Save dialogs.
                            • Electricimage - same deal as above.
                            • I didn't run down the exact details of Vertus Fluid Mask, but it doesn't look like a simple filter plug-in that would appear in the Filters menu.
                            • HSB/HSL - Supposed to appear in Filter - Other subcategory.  Is that where you looked?
                            • Lighting Effects Classic - Look in the Filter - Render - Lighting Effects Classic menu.


                            I didn't look up the others, but I see the pattern.  They're all there, you're just not looking in the right places.



                            • 11. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                              Chuck Warner Level 1


                              You're right about the ones that you are familiar with and I found them, but, I'm concerned about the ones that I am familiar with. Fluid mask and remask 3 are plug-ins that I know very well. I checked with Topaz for compatability and confirmed that Topaz Remask 3 will work with  PsCs6 in both 32 & 64 bit mode in Win XP SP3. In PsCs5, they are in the plug-ins folder and are accessable and listed under the filter drop-down. Not so in PsCs6.They run in 32 bit mode in PsCs5 and I am also in 32 bit mode in PsCs 6 so I remain stumped.


                              • 12. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                Jeff Arola Adobe Community Professional

                                I don't know about fluid mask, but topaz has updated the installers to work with photoshop cs6.

                                • 13. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                  Level 5

                                  Well, I may well be totally out of line chiming in here, being primarily a Mac user, but I am a bit confused by the OP.  I thought that advanced GPU capabilities were not supported in Photoshop CS6 running under Windows XP. 


                                  Message was edited by: station_two

                                  • 14. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                    Jeff Arola Adobe Community Professional

                                    The gpu functions that cs5 had are supported on xp, just not the new more intensive gpu functions like lighting effects, 3d and a few others.

                                    I know it's confusing because the adobe documentation is not as clear as it should be.


                                    The classic lightening effects filter the op has is the same as the old lightening effects filter in prior versions of photoshop.

                                    • 15. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                      Level 5

                                      Thank you, R_Kelly.



                                      R_Kelly wrote:


                                      …because the adobe documentation is not as clear as it should be.


                                      That is the biggest, kindest understatement I've ever read on the subject. 

                                      • 16. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                        Noel Carboni Level 8

                                        So the question is, then, why not get an updated CS6-compatible Fluid Mask provided by the manufacturer instead of copying it.  I did mention that using an installer is important in post #2....  Perhaps I should have been more explicit to ask: 


                                        Are there no CS6-compatible versions provided by the manufacturer?


                                        Station_two, are you implying Photoshop needs advanced GPU capabilities to run something that you see above?



                                        • 17. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                          Level 5

                                          Not really, Noel. I was simply expressing my confusion.  I don't see why anyone would bother to install CS6 in a system that doesn't fully support it.

                                          • 18. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                            Noel Carboni Level 8

                                            People have their reasons for doing what they do, but XP is SOOO long in the tooth right now that it is hard to justify continuing to run it in general, let alone to be the basis for running state-of-the-art graphics software.  It was Good Stuff once, now it's simply outdated.


                                            Perhaps it will all be solved soon...  Microsoft is offering an inexpensive upgrade to Windows 8, even to XP users, and Windows 8 can be as efficient as XP or more under some conditions.



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                                            • 19. Re: plug-ins don't work in PSCS6
                                              Level 5

                                              I realize people have their reasons.  I am no stranger to using some pretty old software and/or hardware myself for specific purposes. I am all for that when there are benefits to reap.


                                              On the other hand, it wouldn't cross my mind to post publicly on a forum complaining about the advanced features of state-of-the-art software not playing nice with my old software/hardware. 


                                              That's where I was coming from.