4 Replies Latest reply: Jul 18, 2012 9:17 PM by Pijetro RSS

    Encore balloons  project size

    Pijetro Community Member

      Okay, so i've got 3.5 hrs of footage that came off of a JVC Everio HDD, and it's 720x480 SD.

       

      Encore accepts the footage as "Do not Transcode" for DVD settings.

      Realizing bitrate vs. quality, i've decided instead to create a BluRay with SD footage.

       

      Unfortunately, Encore CS4.0 requires transcoding when it comes to BluRay. Although it shouldn't, i've always had Encore re-encode totally compliant Mpeg2 footage.

      But this isn't my dilemna.

       

      My issue is, even within Encore's project settings, regardless of maximum bitrate, and with Encore doing a re-encode, the output size balloons out to 50gig.

      I've got 25 gig BD-R image selected.

       

       

      The original SD material is only 18gig in size!!!

       

      Any help would be appreciated. I've always had issues with Encore's Mpeg2 for BluRay compliance. But this is definately a curve ball..

      I might be forced to go to h264 on this one.

        • 1. Re: Encore balloons  project size
          Stan Jones CommunityMVP

          What are your settings for the BD transcode?

           

          There is a difference in the MPEG2-DVD and MPEG2-BD preset. Drawing a blank at the moment....

          • 2. Re: Encore balloons  project size
            Pijetro Community Member

            Okay, so after many hours of toiling, i've realized that there's a bug in Encore, in where there's extra padding in the output size.

             

            I've transcoded to correct bitrates, and all's well. I verify filesizes within the Sources>Transcode folders.

            All assets that will be assembled into a Bluray are correct in size to the bitrates.

             

            I check out the build folder, and everything seems fine.

             

            But for some reason, Encore keeps padding the final output size. I don't know where it's coming from.

            I'm not sure about linking to outside sources, but somebody had the same issue in the Cow forums 2 years ago...

             

            I'll keep plugging away...

            • 3. Re: Encore balloons  project size
              Stan Jones CommunityMVP

              But for some reason, Encore keeps padding the final output size. I don't know where it's coming from.

              Encore pads it by re-transcoding?

               

              Even though Encore shows it as needing transcoding, can you set it to "do not transcode"?

               

              If you set the build to build to a folder, does it still pad so much?

               

              Okay, so after many hours of toiling, i've realized that there's a bug in Encore, in where there's extra padding in the output size.

              I think that was true, but your excess sounds almost double.

              • 4. Re: Encore balloons  project size
                Pijetro Community Member

                Here's the rundown...

                 

                Clips that are ingested, are transcoded, as per bitrate calculator. I verified this by the size of transcode.

                Transcoded clips equal roughly same size as ingested clips...This is verified by the source>transcode folder...

                 

                Since Encore uses this folder to build a BluRay folder, the output size should equal the transcode folder size (give or take a few megs)..

                 

                So what starts off as a build folder of 12 gig, ends up outputting to a folder size of 33gig...

                 

                edit:

                I've since renamed my .mod files to .mpeg, and it's looking more promising.

                However, my audio is lost.

                 

                Gonna reboot, and get back..