At first I thought that option wasn't doing anything for me. I did another export and I am seeing that it brought back a little bit of that contrast, but still not quite the original. Again, I'm making this switch in the sequence settings and using the "Match Sequence Settings" checkbox when I export. I also did an export without checking this "Match Sequence Settings" box, I just plugged in all the option verbatium and it still gave me this same, washed out export.
Here' a screen grab of the 709 vs. RGB vs. Original footage. You can really see the differences in the shadow/hair to the lower left of her eye.
I know I'm being super nit-picky here. I appreciate all the help though.
Anyone have any thoughts on the DNxHD codec? Aside form this export issue it seems okay. The filesizes are big but they play back nicely.
You can't use a software player or a computer monitor to judge this kind of thing, especially QuickTime. There are too many variables that can and do interfere with the display of the video signal.
You can only judge this type of thing on a properly calibrated external TV. So give that a try and report back.
Have you tried comparing the footage from inside of Premiere? Put each of the before and afters over top of each other in Premiere itself and see if they look different. Honestly I downloaded your test file and played them from inside premiere right side by side and didn't notice the problem that I see occuring in your pictures. However I did notice a bit of aspect change or something. But nothing related to color.Anyways just try placing them in premiere and comparing them both from inside Premiere.
If just simply placing the files inside Premiere doesn't fix the issue to begin with. Then attempt to change your preview file format in premiere to something besides Quicktime.
But honestly in the pics you posted I can see a clear difference however when I pull both of your files from rapidshare into Premiere Pro on my windows machine using the standard mpeg preview codec I see no color differences.
Like Jim said though Quicktime can't be trusted for color accuracy it has several known gamma issues.
that's a good thought, I'll give it a look inside premiere. I'll also pull my resources and see if I can get to a good i/o box and monitor. Thanks again everyone
Okay, as ComputerNovice suggested, I imported one of my many many DNxHD exports back into Premiere and I dont see any color difference either. I grabbed a still of the same file opened up in quicktime player right underneith and the difference is pretty noticable. So the verdict, as Jim mentioned, is that Quicktime is no good.
Still haven't gotten to a good monitor yet but this answers a lot of my questions. I'm guessing this better playback within Premiere has somthing to do with the Mecury playback engine? From now on I'm just keeping our final steps "same a source" until it comes time to pick a good looking codec for specific situations. And I won't trust Quicktime Player...
thanks again anyone.
I've always just assumed Premiere obviously displays it correctly even though Quicktime itself doesn't. Basically ever since I can remember when I have worked with anything Quicktime based if I watch things inside Quicktime it appears washed out, then if I view it inside Premiere it appears correctly, But then if I check it on a calibrated professional monitor it appears correctly. I have even had times when FCP users have given me quicktime files they created using Compressor and when I import them into Premiere Pro they appear correctly but yet if I open up that same exact file inside Quicktime it looks washed out.
I've always assumed apple just did a crappy job making Quicktime.
Glad to hear you got to the bottom of the issue though.