Please post the exact settings you used. Bit-rate, GOP, etc. In my own personal experince often times, some of the built in presets that AME comes with are usually not using enough bit-rate IMHO.
Ok as an example I used the MPEG2-DVD Preset and selected "Match Source Attributes (Highest Quality)" which generated the settings. I then checked DVD under Multiplexer and Use Maximum Render Quality; the Preset then read "Custom". Here is a screen shot of the settings. GOP didn't fit, but the values were M Frames 3, N Frames 15.
Weird - I could read the screen shot ok until I hit post. If you can't make it out, let me know.
Try setting the target bit-rate to 10, and the max to 13 and see how you like the end result.
Try these settings and see if you're happier with the end result. If you click the image I have in my post it will enlarge so you'll be able to read it easier.
You can also try these h.264 settings too. Also don't pay attention to the fact my source sequence is different than the one your using I made my export settings match your sequence settings.
CN25: just tried your settings exactly as noted above. Same result - gnarly video. I'm thinking the issue is not a bit rate settings problem.
What would cause AVI files that can be exported to AVI to come out OK, but every other exported format looks terrible? Why would encoding to MPEG-DVD in PP, importing into Encore, and producing a DVD without transcoding look gnarly vs. importing an exported AVI and then transcoding in Encore looks ok (note, latter case is two transcode steps)?
Hey - I think I found the issue, or at least part of it.
I noticed my original AVI clips are "type 1". The exported AVI file is "type 2". I used DVDate to convert one of the original clips to type 2, imported into PP, then exported an MPEG-DVD file. Guess what - it is way better. The AVI file still looks a tad better, I think, but this gnarly terrible video look was resolved.
Why would the AVI type cause PP or underlying codecs or whatever to produce such gnarly looking non-AVI video? Is this result a defect, expected, or did I miss something in the settings?
Your sequence is progressive. That's not correct. Create a new sequence with the proper interlaced settings to match your footage. Then your other exports should come out fine.
Ok - chalk it up to layman / consumer user error here.
How do you tell if an asset video clip is interlaced or progressive in PP? Right-click Properties doesn't reveal that detail.
What is the proper workflow typically to create a new sequence? I had thought the best way is to drag an asset video clip to the New Item button, which I had done here, but obviously my sequence came out wrong. Should I first determine the characteristics of my video assets, then do New.Sequence, select the closest matching preset, then modify the Settings panel as necessary?
>workflow typically to create a new sequence?
Please NOTE that the PPro CS6 screen may look a bit different
For CS5 and later, the easy way to insure that your video and your project match
See 2nd post for picture of NEW ITEM process http://forums.adobe.com/thread/872666
-and a FAQ on sequence setting http://forums.adobe.com/message/3804341
Right click your clip from inside your bin and click on "modify>interpet" then let us know what the field order is. Also right click the click inside your bin and select "properties" and please list the frame size etc of your original media.
See how it shows the files current field order. So please check that and get back with us and hopefully we can help solve your issue.
On the workflow notes, I went through those posts that John Smith mentioned, especially the video which I had seen prior. I had done what was suggested creating a sequence from the clip. However, PP set the sequence up as progressive. Is that to be expected? Or did I miss something here? Anyway, in the future I will pop over to the Settings panel and sanity check.
Regarding the Modify->Interpret and determining interlaced vs. progressive, here is a screen shot. I can see Progressive is grayed out, so I assume that is how to tell it is interlaced, although why doesn't it tell you the field order? In practical terms, do people just know what they are dealing with from the start in most cases?
How do you tell if an asset video clip is interlaced or progressive in PP?
It's DV. It's 29.97. It's interlaced.
For some reason PP isn't reading your media correctly, so just create the sequence manually. There's a preset you can use.
Ok, I think I'm getting it here. Most people know whether their footage is interlaced vs. progressive as I should have here.
Regarding the sequence settings, I just tried this out with some other clips. If I have an AVI type-1 clip PP creates the sequence as progressive. If type-2 it creates interlaced. Should I report as a defect?
I have read of other problems with type 1 - so do what you said in #6 and convert any type 1 file to type 2
You could file a report https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform but I'm not so sure it is a PPro problem, as much as a file type problem
It apears premiere has some trouble with your avi's.
If you have a camera i would recapture with Premiere which will give you avi type 2.
Or use this utility to convert from type 1 to type 2.
I have used that DVDate utility from Glagla before and it appears to work well. Not sure what happened, but my last couple of years when I captured the DV via VideoStudio it came in as type 1 (didn't notice until later). Causes issues in PP as well as playback on my PC.
I could go back and recapture as I have the tapes, but I've spent hours weeding out clips, renaming, and trimming. Probably a lot faster to just conver the actual clips used.
How did you get that little icon view up there? I've got CS6 and can't seem to figure that one out. Anyway, I can mouse over the clip names and it gives the same information. Check this out - all of my progressive clips show p; the 1080i show an i; the converted to type 2 AVI files show i; but the type 1 AVI files show nothing.
What does the i LFF vs. i UFF mean?
LFF means lower field first, and UFF means upper field first. P stands for progressive.
Oh ... that makes sense, duh on me.