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1. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Curt Y Oct 26, 2012 10:10 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)Make sure you have the latest drivers for your video card.
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2. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:21 AM (in response to Curt Y)Yes. I did update all the drivers to my card.
Any other ideas.....
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3. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 26, 2012 10:26 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)In your Photoshop preferences under performance is Use Graphics Processor check box checked and Advance Setting... showing?????
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4. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:30 AM (in response to JJMack)in CS6 ...yes
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5. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Curt Y Oct 26, 2012 10:31 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)What video card are you using?
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6. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:42 AM (in response to Curt Y)I have an GeForce 550Ti 2GB card
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I also have an old 3500Quadro I took out,...a 256MB card, so I took it out and put the other one in ...
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7. Re: Lag time with brushes...
conroy Oct 26, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)Depending on size of brush, brush tip, a multitude of other brush parameters, length of brush stroke, number of layers being sampled by Mixer Brush, etc, etc, etc, it could be perfectly normal for a brush stroke to be instantaneous or to lag by many many seconds or even minutes. You need to be very specific with details of situations where brushes appear to lag unreasonably.
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8. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)oops thats GeForce GTX 560 Ti....
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9. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:46 AM (in response to conroy)i see......it does slow and lag more the larger the brush gets....the media brsuhes do that more such as the fan and other brush tips...etc,...
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10. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 26, 2012 10:48 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)How bad is the delay? I see a delay with my ATI 5770 as tip size increases so does the delay. However the delay is not bad unless I quickly stroke many fast long mixer brush strokes.
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11. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Joey Rocco Oct 26, 2012 10:51 AM (in response to JJMack)Yes!! Thats exactly what is happening.....
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12. Re: Lag time with brushes...
conroy Oct 26, 2012 10:54 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)A reliable way to provide the specifics of your problem situation are to supply the forum with a document and a Tool Preset which cause you to suspect the brush lag to be unreasonable.
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13. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 26, 2012 10:58 AM (in response to Joey Rocco)It you want less delay try real canvas, oils and good brushes. Feels better too harder clean up though.
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14. Re: Lag time with brushes...
conroy Oct 26, 2012 11:02 AM (in response to JJMack)JJMack wrote:
How bad is the delay? I see a delay with my ATI 5770 as tip size increases so does the delay. However the delay is not bad unless I quickly stroke many fast long mixer brush strokes.
Terms such as "bad", "a delay", "quickly" and "long" are useless here. Arbitrary values will be imagined differently by each reader. A delay could be a tenth of a second, a second or 10 seconds, for example. Long could be 100 pixels or 5,000 pixels, etc, etc.
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15. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Noel Carboni Oct 26, 2012 11:13 AM (in response to conroy)conroy wrote:
Terms such as "bad", "a delay", "quickly" and "long" are useless here.I second that.
Since Photoshop is known to slow down with really big brushes, it's necessary to determine whether you're just experiencing the normal compute overhead or having a specific problem for you to be MUCH more specific.
In exact terms:
Describe the document - pixel count, bit depth, layer composition, etc.
Describe the brush - which one you've chosen, how big, how soft, which parameters are associated with it (e.g., spacing).
Describe the lag - i.e., stroke from corner to corner and it takes XXX seconds to catch up.
-Noel
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JJMack Oct 26, 2012 12:56 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)To me it sounded like those term conveyed a my feeling on the subject to the Op and that he understood and got the message they were written to express.. I have done much worse in the past. These forums are for communicating did not know that some words are useless and communicate nothing. Give a guy a break you two.
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17. Re: Lag time with brushes...
conroy Oct 26, 2012 1:13 PM (in response to JJMack)JJMack wrote:
To me it sounded like those term conveyed a my feeling on the subject to the Op and that he understood and got the message they were written to express.. I have done much worse in the past. These forums are for communicating did not know that some words are useless and communicate nothing. Give a guy a break you two.
Yes, to you, your terms were meaningful, but you have to consider other people: those who cannot read your mind.
It stands to reason that both you and the OP will see a brushing tool develop more lag as more is demanded of the brush. That doesn't quantify anything, though, so it doesn't tell the OP whether they are experiencing abnormal lag in a given situation.
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JJMack Oct 26, 2012 7:29 PM (in response to conroy)Not only to me I was trying to communicate with the OP not you his response to my append was "Yes!! Thats exactly what is happening....."
As you know IMO your advice as is sometime off track. Every one does not have the knowledge and understand that Noel and you have. They may understand things better when described in a less technical and precise way. We all do not communicate in the same manor. I hope you understand I was trying to help the OP not you. Your beyond Help -->) you know it all......
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Noel Carboni Oct 26, 2012 7:58 PM (in response to JJMack)Asking for more specific info is the only way I can think of to determine if Joey is experiencing what everyone does or something exceptional.
I don't get the attitude... You're an engineer. You have a better idea?
-Noel
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20. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 26, 2012 8:54 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)Noel no one said you did anything wrong. You don't like an attitude you perceive I have. People are sensitive are we all have attitudes. Attitudes are not alway perceive correctly either.
You also do not have to ware you engineer's hat all the time. Most here are trying to help others some here seem the want to establish guide line rather the try to communicate with the Op at their level of understand or the level others perceive they have. Guide line are good howsoever sometimes they hinder communication for they want language used the Op may not grasped well.
In the case I feel the OP thought of the physical way brushes and paint work. Fast and easy to comprehend. Is it necessary to explain how complex a job it is for a computer to simulate mimic a paint brush what need to be done which computer algorithms are used how long the code path length is. Does the Op speak the language you and conroy seem to want used?
If you think something a users like me writs is not helpful there a "Was this helpful? NO " you should click on. I may not write well but my attitude is one trying to help. My writing seems to rup one the wrong way because I use simple human language they felt was not helpful for terms were not percise terms which should be used. Which you agreed with. I don't agree this is the Web.
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21. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 26, 2012 9:15 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)Noel Carboni wrote:
Asking for more specific info is the only way I can think of to determine if Joey is experiencing what everyone does or something exceptional.
I don't get the attitude... You're an engineer. You have a better idea?
-Noel
Noel did the OP reply to my poor appnd "Yes!! Thats exactly what is happening....." not help you understand his level of understanding.
Terms such as "bad", "a delay", "quickly" and "long" are useless here.
Seems these terms were not preceived as useless by the OP.
If I give out wrong info please by all means point it out and correct it with the right stuff.
However don't tell me what words not to use that my words are useless. I flunked ever English course I ever took. I'm 70+. I'm not going to start passing now. I have learned to live with it and have to do so 24/7. You on the other hand can skip my appends you need not deal with it.
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Noel Carboni Oct 26, 2012 10:26 PM (in response to JJMack)Honestly, I didn't mean to pick at your language, though reading more carefully I can see how you feel I was singling you out. I didn't even notice whose words Conroy was quoting - I was simply expressing my agreement that we can't get to the core issue without knowing more specifics.
I'm very sorry if I've offended you; offending one the good guys here is never my intent!
Shall we get back to trying to help Joey?
-Noel
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23. Re: Lag time with brushes...
conroy Oct 27, 2012 2:28 AM (in response to JJMack)JJMack wrote:
Not only to me I was trying to communicate with the OP not you his response to my append was "Yes!! Thats exactly what is happening....."
That didn't help establish whether the lag experienced by the OP is abnormally lengthy or not.
As you know IMO your advice as is sometime off track.
Yes, you are correct, my advice is sometimes wrong or inappropriate, and I have no trouble admitting to that.
Your beyond Help -->) you know it all......
That statement is a psychological projection of your own highly evident trait.
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24. Re: Lag time with brushes...
JJMack Oct 27, 2012 5:30 AM (in response to conroy)Your beyond Help -->) you know it all......
Yes we both have a lot of knowledge and the above statement was made in jest with some truth in it. We both come across a know it alls. You and I ruffle each other feathers that OK. If my advice is off track put me back on track. Let Adobe make rules for their forums not you job.
We communicate differently. I was not trying to establish whether the lag experience by the OP was abnormally long. I was telling him some lag is normal if you do some thing. I didn't think I needed to tell him that what he was doing was compute intensive that it taxes his powerful computer. I feel he want to use Photoshop more then he wants to learn about computer programming or exactly how something is being done.
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25. Re: Lag time with brushes...
Noel Carboni Oct 27, 2012 9:55 AM (in response to JJMack)What if a change to a pref or a driver update could greatly improve his Photoshop experience? Without knowing whether he's seeing pretty much what others are or something much worse, determining whether that's possible won't happen.
At one point I was working on creating a benchmark suite that would help people know how their painting operations stack up to others' systems. I need to finish that. It wouldn't be hard, I just have to find the time. Then one could just say, "run this benchmark and let us know your results" to see whether to then say "that's normal" or "you should work on that".
-Noel


