Honestly, I'd advise you to skip this feature. File management is best done using a proper File Manager (like Finder), not an NLE.
1. Is there a better way to use the finder than to select each file and choose "reveal in finder" and then manually copy each file? This is a feature length documentary with 5 TB / 485 hours of source footage edited down to 90 minutes.
2. Is there a way to parse an exported XML file to disply just the file paths of all the files used in the project? Then I could use automator to copy the files.
First I'd ask why are you copying the files?
To send the project to a colleague to color and also to archive the project with only the files used in the edit. Side note - when I try to send the sequence to Adobe Speed Grade, it also reports an error.
only the files used in the edit.
That's the part I'd recommend against. Keep all files in all folders intact and unaltered.
I appreciate your warning against it, but I have 485 hours / 5 TB of source footage that I edited down to 90 minutes. I do not need to archive all 485 hours of footage with the project file. I keep that separate in my media library.
Again, I appreciate the sentiment of your warning and appreciate your prompt reply. But, there is either a bug in Premiere, or something else is causing the error, because Adobe clearly presents project management as a feature of Adobe Premiere. If this feature is not functional, then Adobe shouldn't promote it.
Since I have a need to manage my media and cannot do it through Adobe Premiere, is there a way to pull a list us files used int he project either through parsing XML or some other alternative?
Thanks for your help.
If it's a corruption in your project that's causing it, you could try opening a new project and then importing just your master sequence into it. Hopefully whatever is causing the issue won't come through and you might find that you're then able to do a project manage from the new project. That's what I'd try anyway.
I honestly think advising people not to use Project Manager is misguided. It's an essential feature. There's a whole bunch of professional workflows that aren't possible without it.
I have heard of people cracking open the project file with a text editor to find the links to all the media, but have no experience with such myself. Hope you manage to get something worked out.
Thanks for your reply. I have imported the sequence into a new project and am still not able to manage the project. Project management has always been a part of my workflow. I edited on FCP for the last 10 years and made the switch last year to Premiere CS6 because I was using new AVCHD cameras ... and Apple crippled FCP in my opinion. But it seems that project management is different in Premiere than FCP.
It seems that if I am not able to manage the project with Premiere, then my next best bet is to figure out a way to parse the XML file and use automator to copy the footage used in the sequence to a managed project directory. But, I would prefer that Premiere do what it is supposed to do ...
What exactly does the warning say?
FYI: the Project Manager won't trim Long GOP footage, like the 5D footage. That is a limitation of the Project Manager. Are following all the recommendations from the Help article? Trim or copy your project.
Also, check out the video tutorials at the bottom of the Help page for more details.
The error says that Premiere encountered an error and to try again. I have tried this with varaitions on all the options - turning them on and off on different attempts to manage the project. In my last attempt, I was simply trying to copy the files to a new location with no hadles, no name change.
Can Premiere manage AVCHD files from Sony FS100 and the like?
I'm having the exact same problem on 2 different machines. Media Manager was an essential part of our archive process when we were using FCP. To move a project onto a different drive, that you can return to any time and not have to search to reconnect media and that only has a fraction of the media footprint of the original project is incredibly important for us. All of our raw media is saved somewhere else, but the point is that the final show is saved with only the media associated with it in a different location for storage sake. I've been fully on board with a lot of the Adobe features, but this issue really hurts our process. And the fact that the feature sits there taunting us makes it hurt a little more. I can't even figure out a good workaround. Please fix this feature.
I too am having this problem. I have a 45 min project and have tried 5 times to media manage. It always fails and kills the program. I'm using Sony XDEX .mp4 files mainly with some ProRes files as well. Also some GoPro video. I also used to use FCP and this is a must in my workflow. If there is a fix, I would love to find out as much as you! Hopefully they will find a fox for this. I intend on calling them Monday morning to get a human to see the problem with me.
I'm not trimming the project files. I am only trying to copy the files used to a new location. I have created 2 new project and imported the sequence from the old project that I need to manage. I tried to manage the project several times with no success. I stripped the project of subtitles and the project management went further before it crashed, but it still ended up reporting the same error message:
"An unknown error occurred during the Project manager operation. Please save your project and retry the operation."
Is this issue something that Adobe is working to fix? If so, can you provide an eta of the fix?
Thanks for your help,
I did a Collect and Copy function for a number of different projects and footage types and the Project Manager seems to be working fine for that. Again, it won't trim Long GOP footage, but should be able to manage it otherwise. You might try it on clips using a different codec to see if the functionality of the Project Manager is broken or the footage is the problem.
If you are still having trouble, please file a bug report: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
It doesn't work for me either in long projects. I narrowed it down in my project to MXF files from a Canon XF300 by breaking out my different sources into different timelines. Other sources (5dMKIII, AE Renders, QT transcodes) work. MXF files do not, giving same error as OP. Filing a bug report.
EDIT: Should have specified I'm doing the "collect and copy" function. Not attempting a trim which I know doesn't work. I have to resort to hand copying files from their original reel folders, which is a pain.
Also having the same issue. Just upgraded to CS6, running OSX 10.8.2. The project has 2TB worth of video and stills, and Project Manager will run for ~2 hours and then give the "Unknown Error Occured, please save your project and then try again." This has happened 3 times now. Attempting to manage 10 sequences, which have 3 streams of 1080 Pro Res LT, but XDCAM footage that is imported, but not used in the timeline. When I Calculate the size, it actually increases the resulting project size by ~500GB.
Has anyone had any luck in figuring out this problem?
New problems that have come up outside of unknown errors:
• The trim goes through ok, but then when opening the trimmed project, there are \\\\\ lines through the footage, making it black in the program and nonexistent audio. There is no pattern to it, part of the clip will be fine and the other part is basically non-existent. Check Enable, locking and all that it's not any of those. Some of it happens to Pro Res LT footage, and some to the XDCAM EX 35mb/s footage, so it's not codec specific.
• Project manager says that there isn't enough space to trim to on a volume, but the original project is under 1.2, and the drive I'm trimming to is 2 TB, so the project is getting bigger, not smaller.
• In some trims, the clips aren't actually trimming. I'm getting the trimmed clips, as well as the raw source, significantly increasing my project size. This happens with all Pro Res LT footage.
Kevin do you or does anyone else have any suggestions?
I think the issue is the C300 footage. We've not been able to use the Project Manager with any project that contains footage from our C300. P2, AVCHD, other formats seem to work fine. Love for this to get fixed as it would help us archive our projects much more effectively.
Wow, I just got back from NAB 2013 and met with the Adobe staffers and told me to simply use the Project Manager+Collect Files so I can move my project to a bigger and faster machine to complete the task. Like the others in this section, here, I cannot copy the files manually one by one as it is nearly an hour long, with numerous files and formats. I get the same errors as the other posters and I'm told to try again. What???? This is a feature? We need a fix now. It worked fine in Final Cut Pro and I am not going to start all over and cut this on FCP 7. I came back from NAB ready to finish this task and that simple commnad craps out? I do realize that a small minority of users actually write in. I guess this is ready for a recall. Fix this!
Adobe definately need to fix this promtly. The Project Management function is absolutly crucial for pro workflows! And Canon MXF is a widely used format. Adobe - you got a fix it!
The this doesn't solve the problem when Canon MXF files is involved (As C300 in files) Adobe really need to fix this - An actually I would say - as I migrate form FCP - that Adobe needs to get the core functions in Premiere 100% solid before new features is introduced. I would pay a full update price - If just CS 7.0 will be functioning as Cs 6.0 was supposed to.
I'm having a similiar problem managing a current project. As part of the job scope I need to hand over rushes to the client. I've cleaned my shots up and attempt to copy the trimmed timelines into a new folder and get the same error (Premiere has encountered an error, will close now..), regardless of whether I'm reducing or just copying the media. Material is a mixture of 60D and Sony FS700 both in native form, so there is some long GOP material in there but I still don't understand why it crashes when I simply try and copy.
My workaround to meet this deadline is to individually nest each clip in the timeline then send the nests as a batch through AME. A little tedious, but it has to be done somehow..
To be clear from my post above I was only trying to "collect and copy" the entire project, not trim the clips, as I knew there were issues with that. Really need this to work for archiving and transferring projects.
Hi - Has any progress been made on this? I've filed a bug report but not heard - It's massively important to us to be able to archive projects that use Canon MXFs from the XF305 and every time we try, we get the unknown error....soon as we manage a project without this kind of footage, it works...It's pretty frustrating.
Same exact problem.
(Interview/Doc style project with a lot of subjects)
Settings: "Collect Files & Copy to New Location" selected - "Rename Media Files to Match Clip Names" is UNCHECKED. The project contains about 200GB of H.264 footage from Canon 5D MK II's with dual system audio (audio in MOV files Replaced via DualEyes/PluralEyes) and my workflow involved creating ALL subclips for each usable soundbite. I get the same message, "An unknown error has occurred during the Project Manager operation. Please save your project and retry the operation."
I noticed in the Finder it has nearly QUADRUPLED the collective size of the media compared to the "Resulting Disk Space" estimated within the Project Manager. Is this a direct result of using subclips? In the Finder (before hitting "Ok" to the unknown error dialog box) I see the same clips duplicated up to 10+ times in some cases, filenames being appended sequentially with 001, 002, etc.
Archiving this project for my [former] employer to hand off to the next editor is the only thing standing between me and my new job! :/ Please, ANY HELP would be very, very appreciated!
- FCP Veteran gone Adobe
Yup, having same issue here, with Premiere CC. For me the issue was trying to export sequences previously imported from FCP XMLs that contained "slugs" which were black sections of video inserted at beginning and end. Seems as though Project Manager doesn't know how to handle those.
I filed a bug report.
I have recently this issue with the project manager both in CC and CS6.
1. I get an error "An unknow error occurred during the Project Manager operation. Please save your project and retry the operation." while trying to collect all files and copy all the media in my final sequence to an external drive. If I choose to use trimmed project I had a bunch of clips get messed up and are out of sync. Frozen frames, wrong part of the media. Overall just broken.
2. While trying to troubleshoot and fix this issue I have had 3 clips go from working to offline because they were now corrupt. Very concerning. Could have been outside issues but strange that it happened while I was trying to media manage.
I am using 100% prores media transcoded mostly from Red R3d files.
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I had the same problem. But when I deselect the option to copy the preview files, it suddenly works.
The previews seem to be the cause of multiple problems. They also prevented me from opening a project before.
I have this same problem on a Mac with CS6. I was simple trying to archive a project using the "collect files" option. After five or six hours of troubleshooting (Thanks Adobe) I have narrowed it down to MXF clips that came over in a Final Cut EDL (Projects created in PP with MXF files seem to be fine). In other words, as I was transitioning from FCP to Premiere Pro, I sent four or five projects out of FCP as an EDL, opened them in PP and continued to edit. It seemed to work really well until I attempted to archive my media. If there was a single raw MXF file in the timeline (Not the project panel for some reason) the Project Manager would give me the standard error:"An unknown error occurred during the Project Manager operation. Please save your project and retry the operation.".
I have found two solutions that seem to work, both of which are a pain in the ax.
Option 1: Save the original project file only to an archive folder. Then delete all the old timelines from the project, and save the project with a new name. Create a new timeline and just drag all the raw video and audio into it. (Project Manager needs a timeline of some sort to archive) Then use the Project Manager to archive the modified project. If I need the project in the future, I'll need to open the original PP project and relink all the media from the archived "media only" project folder.
Unbelievably, if you were to take this route and then re-edit the project in the future, it looks like you would run up against the same archiving issue AGAIN next time (At least using CS6). You'd have to go through all the steps above to archive it a second time. Depending on the size of your project, you may want to take option 2 and get the pain over with once-and-for-all.
Option 2: If you only have a couple of MXF files in the timeline (in my case I had mostly renders from AE by the time I was done and THAT raw project had archived in AE just fine) you can export the raw MXF files to another format, then replace the media in your project panel. Finally, use the Project Manager to archive the project like you should have been able to in the first place if Adobe had written the code well in the first place!
This sucks big time. Same problem here. A 2min video compillation and I cannot move the project without spending time afterwards re-connectng all the file references. Is this a joke, Adobe? And nothing is being fixed?
I was having this same issue, but for some reason it seemed to work when I unchecked certain timelines so that Premiere Pro would only try to collect the clips from a single timeline instead of multiple timelines. This would be a weird workaround, but I hope it helps!
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I would first like to say that it takes twice as long to fix a problem when half the posts on the forum are simply complaining about the problem.
Next, I would like to say that copying the folder structure containing the media was my first instinct but not possible due to the difference in version updates.
We could not copy from a newer version of adobe CC 7.1.something to version CS6.
That is when I looked into Project Manager. The first time I exported through PM it worked. I "collected files and copy to new location" and "included preview and audio conform files." The folder was 6GB. I then completely rendered my project and tried to export again with the same settings. The estimated file size was 69GB and this is when I encountered the same errors as the OP. I then deselected "included preview and audio comform files" and worked again. Like post #28 CS Mic, I assume the problem is with the preview file sizes. I did have over 1.5TB available on hard drive.
Fix: Try exporting without the preview files and audio conform files. I will be much quicker with smaller folder size. The receiver of the new folder structure will have to rerender. I did have to relink like 2 files but it is quick and clean and simple because it takes you to the folder. Just choose the file real quick and its done.
I am using CS6 v6.0.5. Exported 2 sequences in 1080p24 AVCHD. 1st seq is 30 min. 2nd seq is 5 min. RAW footage in bin is 1 hr with a few video effects, transitions, photos, and titles.
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I was having the same error, this time using the Canon FXP codec.
Like others in this thread, it's primarily Adobe's attitude that's frustrating - releasing (seemingly) broken features that we all (as professional editors, no less!) use regularly and know well.
However, like some others in this thread - de-selecting 'Include Preview Files' allowed the process to complete.
Is there a fix to this yet? I have CS6, CC and CC 2014. I may have to open up the project in final cut pro to get it to transfer all of the files. Any solutions yet in CC 2014 or other?
Any fix for this yet? I am pretty sure my problem is the issue with long GOP structures, but if Adobe knows this why hasn't it been addressed? It's been two years since this poster started this thread and still nothing? I have a feature doc that I need to media manage down to be a backup and every time I try to do it it fails with the same error message Athentikos had nearly 2 YEARS AGO. The word was that this last update a few weeks back was supposed to have major advancements to the Project Manager feature and yet it looks like they STILL haven't fixed this issue?! Come on Adobe...
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I had a recent problem and found the solution for myself. It requires 2 parts.
1. I would render and replace all clips in my timeline to a ProRes 422 (Right click on clips)
2. Even after I did this I had the problem. I watched the files Premiere was writing over and I located a specific file that was corrupted on my timeline. I simply dragged and dropped the file back in and it worked fine after that.
So render and replace if possible, and then see if it's a specific file giving you trouble.
Edit on friend,
Exact same issue. This thread started in 2012 and people are still having the same issue? Not being able to make this important function work is the difference in mailing a SD card versus a hard drive on this project. Eager to find out this has been solved and I missed it somehow. Adobe? You still with us buddy?
Is this thread still only referring to CS6? I'm pretty sure that it's been resolved with Creative Cloud
I'm running creative cloud and am still getting the same issue. Thanks for clarifying. I had not noticed this was the wrong thread. Any clues?
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