4 Replies Latest reply on Nov 12, 2012 1:30 PM by simcoemedia_design

    CS6 to CS1 and back again

    simcoemedia_design

      Dear Adobe Forum Folk,

       

      I am currently seeking to clarify some information on InDesign so that my client and I can proceed on a series of brochures / datasheets we are currently working on with all the facts to hand. The problem is basically that my client has InDesign CS1 and I have InDesign CS6. It would be worth doing the work completely in CS6 but it is of value for the client to be able to change the data and use the basis of one leaflet / brochure design as the basis for the next in a similar way to a template. Essentially my client needs to be able to share the files and easily make changes when I have produced the basic design but he has InDesign CS1.

       

      So I am making the following assumptions and would like to be corrected if I am wrong:

       

      1. Firstly, it is not recommended to create tables in Illustrator and import as an AI or PDF into InDesign as this does not give as much flexibility. The best option for creating and editing tables in InDesign and keeping the original files as InDesign when worked on by both client / designer - ie some flexibility / layout etc may be lost if Illustrator is used and sent over to the client to be dropped into an InDesign file.
      2. Secondly, InDesign CS6 cannot export INX files to export right back to CS1. It will only create an IMDL file which is incompatible with CS1 - CS3
      3. Does anyone know what would happen if I did create the tables in Illustrator as separate pages then my client put them together in the final INDESIGN CS1 file by importing? What would be lost? In some ways this is the most important question as it will be the deciding factor on recommendations I make to the client.

       

      Thanks in advance.

       

      Regards,

       

      Pete

        • 1. Re: CS6 to CS1 and back again
          Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

          This workflow is practically guaranteed to fail.

           

          You certainly could create the whole thing as a series of illustrator files that can be placed, but how is the client going to edit them? If he has ID CS1, his Illustrator is likely just as out of date and will have problems with your newer files, most likely converting all of the text to "point text" rendering it pretty useless.

          • 2. Re: CS6 to CS1 and back again
            Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

            Pete,

             

            This type of question comes up quite often although generally, we are not discussing a gap of six full CS releases (CS5.5 was really a full release, especially of InDesign) covering a period of over eight years.

             

            Although you could probably cobble up some really Byzantine kludges to round-trip content between CS1 and CS6 InDesign versions, you should consider two other things:

             

            (1)     It is highly likely that no matter how careful you are, you are going to encounter anomalies going back and forth that will either take significant amounts of your time to work around or in the even worse case, you don't even find until very late in the workflow or on the press. And your level of frustration may be stratospheric!

             

            (2)     Your time and that of your client is worth something. Unfortunately, most professionals in the graphic arts industry vastly undervalue their time as opposed to obsessing on the cost of keeping their tools (in this case, software) fairly up-to-date and in sync with those they work with. My bet is that the cost of software upgrade by your client will be vastly overshadowed by value of time wasted by him hacking around to get this workflow viable plus the higher costs you pass on to him based on the extra time you are expending due to his failure to upgrade. If you are not charging extra for this, you should be.

             

                      - Dov

            • 3. Re: CS6 to CS1 and back again
              BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

              If you want to be of value to the client point them to Creative Cloud. There is no way in hell you will get that workflow to work.

               

               

               

              Bob

              • 4. Re: CS6 to CS1 and back again
                simcoemedia_design Level 1

                Thanks Dov [and all the others who have commented],

                 

                I think I just want to be sure that theres no stone unturned if I make a recommendation to the client that he upgrades to Cloud or Design Standard CS6. The issue is slightly greater in that it also probably involves a hardware upgrade [totally new PC with Windows 7 which may then have issues with his works network configuration] so its quite the outlay for the client with some risks involved.

                 

                Anyway, I really value the feedback on this.

                 

                Pete